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Game Thread Ohio State 23, Purdue 7 (final)

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Boilermakers offense wears out scoreboards

Purdue has Big Ten's top offense, but hasn't faced a defense like dominant Ohio State.

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By Kyle Nagel
Staff Writer

Friday, October 05, 2007
Like many people who pay attention to college football, Ohio State linebacker Marcus Freeman is well aware of Purdue's powers on offense.
"Oh, yeah," Freeman said. "We get a lot of the stats."


Try these: 45.4 points per game (1st in the Big Ten and 8th nationally), 309.8 passing yards per game (1st, 14th) and 495.8 total yards per game (1st, 10th).



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Steve19;949757; said:
overwhelmed teams running the ball and our pass defense is ranked #6.

Now, those statistics may well be compromised by them having played second and third string players, but then so are ours.
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...and you have to factor in the amount of times they score and give the ball back to the other team. Those teams get quite a bit more possesions due to the high scoring Purdue offense.

Not saying they should still be THAT bad given the competition, just throwing that out there.
 
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Dispatch

Painter, Bryant make mark in record book
QB, wide receiver excel in high-flying Purdue offense
Friday, October 5, 2007 4:09 AM
By Bob Baptist


THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
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Purdue's Curtis Painter holds the school record for passing yards in a season.

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Receiver Dorien Bryant has been a key ingredient in the Boilermakers offense since catching 38 passes as a freshman.


The cover of the book snags the recruits. The gloss. The 60, 70 or even 80 passes a Purdue quarterback has thrown in a game. The 80 or more passes the Boilermakers' leading receiver routinely has caught in a season since coach Joe Tiller brought "basketball on grass" to the Big Ten in 1997. The video-game numbers in a real-game setting.

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I am more worried about this game than most. I've seen Purdue play twice, and it seems like most of the questionable D has been played during gabage time - the difference between the Bucks and them being the strength of our second team. I don't mean to imply our defenses are equal, just that Purdue's D isn't as bad as their numbers might indicate.

Our depth and ability to rotate overcome a hostile crowd and the basktball on grass O in the second half and squeak out another "Holy Buckeye" type vistory - I say 23-21.

GO BUCKS!
 
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Noticed they have attempted 10 field goals, made 8.
Wonder if they have some red zone issues?
Their kicker is a good one, though.

I would guess we'll do some clock control to help out the "D" also.
If we get in a shoot out, it's probably a negative sign.
 
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Taosman;949839; said:
Noticed they have attempted 10 field goals, made 8.
Wonder if they have some red zone issues?
Their kicker is a good one, though.

I would guess we'll do some clock control to help out the "D" also.
If we get in a shoot out, it's probably a negative sign.
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Yeah, I think against Notre Dame, they had the ball 4 or 5 times in the redzone in the 1st half and came away with 3 field goals...
 
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Ohio.com - Robiskie breaks out as go-to guy

Having a father that can talk to you this way is a great thing, having a coach like Tressel as "father to the entire team" is equally as great.

This quote is by Terry Robiskie to his son Brian seemed like good advice for all going into tomorrow's game. So to keep things in perspective "Your goal in life is to go win" against Purdue and then do the same next week with Kent State, etc, one week at a time, one step at a time. Because that time is fleeting and as the season accelerates it's easy to be tempted to look ahead. Be myopic, keep this week in focus and enjoy the moment.

''All I tell him is: 'Your goal in life is to go win and go win a national championship with Ohio State. Go be a leader and go do what you're supposed to do. Do everything you can to enjoy your day and time in college, because you only get one day and one time to be in college.'''
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Go Bucks :osu:
 
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OregonBuckeye;949705; said:
I certainly didn't get that impression. He looked like a tough SOB.
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It certainly appeared to my untrained eye that Locker was more timid and jumpy in the second half. I'm not knocking his toughness, but he was much less affective and decisive. Something tells me a few hard hits on a young QB can do that. I'm not so sure that will have the same effect on Painter.
 
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More Differential Statistical Analysis:

Differential Rushing and Passing
Purdue has rushed for 95.7% as many yards as their opponents have given up to everyone else.

Purdue has passed for 111.0% as many yards as their opponents have given up to everyone else.

By contrast, OSU's last opponent (Minnesota) has rushed for 151.1% as many yards as their opponents have given up to everyone else...

...and passed for 103.6% as many yards as their opponents have given up to everyone else.

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So while Minnesota only rushes for 4.8 ypg more than Purdue (I-A competition only) and passes for 45.9 ypg fewer than Purdue; it appears that their Rushing superiority is much greater than the raw numbers suggest and that Purdue's passing superiority is not all that.

I won't suggest that these numbers mean that Minnesota has a better offense than Purdue; obviously there are a lot of factors that go in to producing these numbers that don't imply that Minnesota is the better team.

But the suggestion that this is the first offense with a pulse that the Buckeyes will have played is obviously nothing but hyperbole. The Boilermakers might be better than Minnesota on offense. But then again they might not be. And OSU held the Gophers to 45 yards rushing.

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Also, while some might fall prey to the transitive comparison showing Purdue scoring 45 points against Minnesota while OSU scored just 30; those who do so are failing to consider the way that OSU chose to attack Minnesota.

Purdue noted how bad Minnesota's pass defense was and chose to throw the ball 59.3% of the time.

Ohio State noted how bad Minnesota's pass defense was and chose to RUN the ball 61.8 % of the time anyway. And more than half of those runs were on first down.

Ohio State just lined up and ran right at Minnesota. The Gophers knew OSU was running on first down. In spite of this, OSU averaged more yards per carry against Minnesota than did ANY of the Gophers other opponents, none of whom rushed 50% of the time, let alone 60%+. Basically, Beanie lined up and ran the ball down their throats while Boeckman struggled to find a rhythm. As the season goes on, the Buckeyes are getting better and better at the power running game as they get more reps at it.

For all we know, JT is using his defensive superiority to win games while on offense he is developing the power running game that will present a matchup problem for teams we meet later.

And oh by the way, the Buckeyes averaged more yards per pass attempt than the Boilermakers did too. (Florida Atlantic outpaced both the Buckeyes and the Boilermakers in ypa, but the Gophers blew so many coverages in that game just about anyone would have looked like Joe Montana against them.)

And oh by the way, the Buckeye D did just a shade better than holding the Gophers to 1/4th as many yards per carry as the Purdue D managed.

And oh by the way, the Buckeyes still managed to hold the Gophers to fewer yards per pass attempt than the Boilermakers did.

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While this is still a transitive analysis, it takes into consideration how the numbers were compiled, not just the raw numbers. As such it is more meaningful and, IMO, it gives us a more reliable look ahead.

The best criticism of this analysis is Steve19's observation, or rather his quote of JT's observation, that Purdue has raced out to big half time leads and has played much of their bench in the second half of games. This has undoubtedly hurt Purdue's stats.

But have the Boilermakers logged more minutes for the scrubs than the Buckeyes have? Ohio State has played the two-deep+ throughout all of their games and has gone very deep into the bench at the end of them.

If nothing else, these numbers show that there is a very big difference in the quality of depth between the two teams.

I'm going to bet all my v$ that there is a good sized gap at the top too.


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Yertle;950285; said:
It certainly appeared to my untrained eye that Locker was more timid and jumpy in the second half. I'm not knocking his toughness, but he was much less affective and decisive. Something tells me a few hard hits on a young QB can do that. I'm not so sure that will have the same effect on Painter.
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It might not have the same effect on Painter. Indeed, Locker was facing a tough D-I defense for the first time in his young life and had never had his butt kicked the way the Buckeyes kicked it.

But Painter is not imune.

Last year, the Boilermakers posted the following in on offense:

501 yards, 60 points
533 yards, 38 points
490 yards, 21 points
510 yards, 31 points
472 yards, 35 points

against:

Indiana St.
Ball St.
Notre ame
Northwestern
Hawaii


That is arguably a tougher slate than they've faced so far this year.


Also last year, after logging less than 420 yards only once in their first 7 games (391 against Miami, OH), they managed the following against the real defenses they played:

286 yards, 3 points
246 yards, 0 points
285 yards, 7 points

against:

Wisconsin (#2 scoring defense)
Penn St. (#9 scoring defense)
Maryland (#51 scoring defense)

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They did not play Ohio State or Michigan last year.


The point here is that Purdue's personality is to beat the unholy snot out of weaklings (yardage-wise anyway), while getting practically blanked against the big boys.

In my opinion this year will prove to be no different.
 
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