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Official Cleveland Browns Draft Thread

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NFBuck;717654; said:
Well, Carson Palmer's college career was 5 years ago and I didn't follow USC, but I do know he won the Heisman Trophy, so apparently he did have some memorable plays and performed well against competition. As for Alex Smith, he was the first pick in what may be one of the most mediocre drafts talent wise in recent memory. There was no consensus number one pick that year...he was #1 by default. On top of that, I really doubt he ever becomes much more than a decent NFL QB.
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NFBuck;717654; said:
Buckguy pretty much covered it as far as Quinn goes. He led a comeback against a dreadful MSU team. Whoopdee freakin' doo. He barely beat a mediocre UCLA team. Don't give me a "they beat USC" excuse either. That was a rivalry game, and we all know crazy things happen in rivalry games. Well, unless it's USC-NoD, we pretty much know how that one goes.

Bottom line is this: Quinn had a grand total of ZERO big wins in four years of college. I suppose you could say he beat scUM last year (2005), but scUM was bad last year (2005). He has shown with alarming regularity that he is prone to panicking and making mistakes when pressured. I don't want him in a Browns uniform. Would just be Tim Couch the sequel. I'd rather have Thomas, AP (provided he comes out), or hell, even Alan Branch than Quinn.

Again, this isn't a personal thing I have against Quinn because he's a Domer. I just don't think he's the answer for the Browns. We have many more pressing needs than a QB that need to be addressed, beginning with the lines. I'm just sick of all these high draft picks not helping to really improve the organization, Wimbley being the exception. Frustrating as hell. It's like watching the Bungles of the nineties all over again. I'm afraid drafting Quinn would be David Klingler all over again. Wait, I guess technically Couch would have been our Klingler, making Quinn our Akili Smith. Hell, whatever; I just think drafting Quinn would be a huge mistake.
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You make some good points. However, I think Alex Smith will be a solid QB. That team is still forming and I think they will be very good two years from now.

We obviously have very different opinions of Quinn.
 
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NFBuck;717937; said:
:slappy: Ryan Leaf had the frame, arm and intelligence to be dominent. Palmer won the friggin' Heisman, and as pointed out above, did quite well against solid competition as a Senior. Sorry, why are you bringing up Jay Cutler again?
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You think Ryan Leaf had the intelligence to be a QB in the NFL? :yow1:

He was all tools.
 
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king rhabuf;717644; said:
Butch recruited Kellen at the U, and Kellen is an amazing TE. Sean Jones was a great 2nd round pick too. Those guys have been the best players we've ever gotten in the first two rounds.
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And they still could've gotten Kellen two picks further down and STILL HAD THEIR DAMN 1ST ROUNDER THE NEXT YEAR!!! Hello!!!!




When Chris Palmer is the coach, stability goes out the window.
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You truly need reading comprehension....




Check your facts. It was ranked 31st in the NFL. Awful against the run.
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The offense needs to help the defense. If your defense is on the field for 40 minutes a game, it's going to give up yards. Take at look at who was the worst team against the run this year and look where THEY are.



His names Brady Quinn.
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Fat Chuck is that you?? :slappy::slappy::slappy::slappy::slappy::slappy::slappy:



Again, we have Shafer at LT for better or for worse. We aren't taking Thomas with the money we've invested into Shafer. AD would be great if BQ is taken.
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If they take Brady Quinn I hope they go 0-16 every year he starts for them. Who is this AD you are talking about? Anthony Davis isn't in this draft dammit. Adrian Peterson would be a good pickup but they can cut Shaffer any time they wish.....
 
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scarletngrey11;717942; said:
We need an indentity. Right now im leaning towards Peterson honestly... as long as we address the OL problem in FA.
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I agree....Peterson would be a great addition and would give the Browns a possible superstar to build around....

Kinda like what the Chargers did with LDT....
 
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BuckeyeMike80;718202; said:
And they still could've gotten Kellen two picks further down and STILL HAD THEIR DAMN 1ST ROUNDER THE NEXT YEAR!!! Hello!!!!






You truly need reading comprehension....






The offense needs to help the defense. If your defense is on the field for 40 minutes a game, it's going to give up yards. Take at look at who was the worst team against the run this year and look where THEY are.





Fat Chuck is that you?? :slappy::slappy::slappy::slappy::slappy::slappy::slappy:




If they take Brady Quinn I hope they go 0-16 every year he starts for them. Who is this AD you are talking about? Anthony Davis isn't in this draft dammit. Adrian Peterson would be a good pickup but they can cut Shaffer any time they wish.....
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Wow, that was brutal. King, you just got slapped around. :box:
 
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king rhabuf;718249; said:
whose that guy we drafted in the first round the year after

i think he goes by braylon
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and he's both from scUM and drops every other pass throw his direction...

That really worked out didn't it????

The only thing that would be WORSE for the Browns to do would be to draft Brady Quinn. Winslow, at least, HAS TALENT and playmaking ability. He doesn't fold like Brady Quinn does when he gets hit.
 
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BuckeyeMike80;718268; said:
and he's both from scUM and drops every other pass throw his direction...

That really worked out didn't it????

The only thing that would be WORSE for the Browns to do would be to draft Brady Quinn. Winslow, at least, HAS TALENT and playmaking ability. He doesn't fold like Brady Quinn does when he gets hit.
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first off, AD = adrian peterson. thats his nickname

Braylon came back from his knee injury EXTREMELY fast. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. Expect big things from him this year.
 
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king rhabuf;718310; said:
first off, AD = adrian peterson. thats his nickname
Didn't know that. I always though it was AP....

Braylon came back from his knee injury EXTREMELY fast. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. Expect big things from him this year.
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It won't matter a damn if he either has A) Brady Quinn throwing the ball or B) no offensive line to give the QB time to get him the ball....

Beyond that he's going to drop the ball.
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