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Oden vs. Durant

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The problem with that Texas team is they are banking on 2 frosh leading their team...

They have other solid players, but Durant and Augistine are the goto guys and they will struggle against teams that find away to slow them two down.

Durant is going to get his points due to the number of shots he takes, and can carry a team if he gets hot.

As for him vs Oden, I think the the debate starts and stops with their impact on the defensive end...
 
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Today on SportsCenter, they compared the two stars for stats and talked about how they will fare in this upcoming NBA draft. Durant has the statistical edge on points (by 10 pts.) and rebounds (by about 2) but Oden leads in blocks. If they both declare to leave early for the NBA, who do you think will be taken first.

I believe Oden should go first, for the main reason is that he is a dominant center. Durant is more of an all around can shoot the 3 type of guy, when Oden is just focusing on his down low game. A center is a center, and should be getting the easy down low points and rebounds, and thats what Oden does, while Durant isnt really a true center.
 
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BIGBLUEHART;741925; said:
like said in this thread probably 30-40 times his D is not amazing.
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First off, I didn't say his "D was amazing". I said the play was amazing and he has a lot of tools (which, ironically is what I am saying you are!).

Secondly, I think his D is better than is being posted. He can block shots and pulls a lot of boards. He may not match up very well 1 on 1, but I don't know that. Texas locks him in the middle so he can pull the boards (in the 2 games I've watched). The analysis I've watched also says his D will improve with time and bulk and I tend to believe that.
 
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Okinawa's#1Buck;741922; said:
There is nothing he can't do. Amazing.
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and yeah he does get a lot of rebounds due to standing in the middle of the zone, but when they play teams that really hit the glass he has been in trouble, because he doesn't look to box anyone out as soon as the ball goes in the air he watches it instead of finding someone to block out. When i've watched him i haven't seen him block that many shots, but i've only seen him play about 4 times. I would imagine that they are saying his D will come along, it can't get any worse.
 
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BIGBLUEHART;743301; said:
...because he doesn't look to box anyone out as soon as the ball goes in the air he watches it instead of finding someone to block out...
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Typical mistake of a young player in a new system without the talent/height/athletic ability advantage he had in high school.

Oden has the above aspect down, but struggles guarding away from the ball and reacting to switches. NEEDS to learn to defend the pick and roll to play NBA basketball.
 
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BIGBLUEHART;743301; said:
and yeah he does get a lot of rebounds due to standing in the middle of the zone, but when they play teams that really hit the glass he has been in trouble, because he doesn't look to box anyone out as soon as the ball goes in the air he watches it instead of finding someone to block out. When i've watched him i haven't seen him block that many shots, but i've only seen him play about 4 times. I would imagine that they are saying his D will come along, it can't get any worse.
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If you watch your best rebounders guys like Ben Wallace, DRodman etc. they don't block out...

Durant isnt the best defensive player, but alot of these guys coming right out of high school are, look at Daequan cook, if he was on a team like Texas and taking the mass amount of shots that Durant is he would be the same type of scorer, and people would criticize his defense much like they do with Durant. They are just not great defenders due to the fact that they were just way more athletic than the guys in high school and they reach and don't move their feet. Either way they are learning how to play on that end of the court, but a guy like Durant can get hot and lead his team to a win on any given nite, b/c he is that good...

Either way
 
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blocking out is overrated...

for one, but postioning cant be overlooked. why go find someone to block out if you are in the postion to make the play? why not attack the ball instead?

that being said the team needs to check out. not all five guys in reality. but those guys you think of as great rebounders work with guys who do a great job of blocking out and freeing the rebounder up to attack the ball in the air. if that makes sense?
 
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jimotis4heisman;743595; said:
blocking out is overrated...
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it's the little things that count, that's why Bobby knights is so successful.

I know Durrant is young and his defense will get better, i was just saying that i would take Oden over Durrant right now, cause Oden is a threat at both ends and i thought that's what we were discussing on this thread.
 
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Charles Barkley, the greatest rebounder I have ever seen, says blocking out is completely unimportant. FWIW. I'd be reluctant to take issue with Sir Charles when it comes to rebounding.

Shaun Stonerook, the best Buckeye rebounder of recent memory, never blocked anyone out that I can remember.

Of course, I'm not a coach.
 
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MaxBuck;743642; said:
Charles Barkley, the greatest rebounder I have ever seen, says blocking out is completely unimportant. FWIW. I'd be reluctant to take issue with Sir Charles when it comes to rebounding.
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That's funny, b/c he was a 6'6 guy playing forward using that big ass to box out. You sure you watched him play?

MaxBuck said:
Shaun Stonerook, the best Buckeye rebounder of recent memory, never blocked anyone out that I can remember.
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The 2nd you brought up Shaun Stonerook, you lost all credibility. :slappy:
 
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