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North Carolina Tar Heels (official thread)

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They deserve the harshest penalty in the history of the NCAA. Whereas Penn State was tangentially related to football activities, this scandal directly involved behavior intended to be policed by the NCAA. Both basketball and football teams should have to forfeit the last 18 years, there should be a death penalty for both for the near future, and they should have to pay tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars in fines. I'm sick and tired of this so called "public Ivy" getting away with the most egregious academic violations ever seen and yet no one really caring because it's UNC.

Of course none if this will ever happen so my point and anger are rendered moot.
 
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shiznit7 said:
They deserve the harshest penalty in the history of the NCAA. Whereas Penn State was tangentially related to football activities, this scandal directly involved behavior intended to be policed by the NCAA. Both basketball and football teams should have to forfeit the last 18 years, there should be a death penalty for both for the near future, and they should have to pay tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars in fines. I'm sick and tired of this so called "public Ivy" getting away with the most egregious academic violations ever seen and yet no one really caring because it's UNC.

Of course none if this will ever happen so my point and anger are rendered moot.
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They deserve sanctions from SACS.
 
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If they have to vacate seasons from 1993-2010 that's going to wipe out 45 wins for Mack Brown, and 48 wins for all the other coaches combined (Butch Davis's wouldn't apply since those have already been vacated, lol).
 
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NCAA's response to damning UNC report will define its future
In October 2000, the NCAA Committee on Infractions handed Minnesota’s men’s basketball program a one-year postseason ban, reduced scholarships and vacated a Final Four appearance because a secretary for longtime coach Clem Haskins had written papers (with his knowledge) for at least 18 players over a five-year period. In its report, the committee described the violations as “among the most serious academic fraud violations to come before it in the past 20 years. The violations were significant, widespread and intentional. More than that, their nature — academic fraud — undermined the bedrock foundation of a university and the operation of its intercollegiate athletics program.”

On Wednesday, Kenneth L. Wainstein released the results of an independent investigation into academic fraud at the University of North Carolina so massive in scope that the word serious hardly does it justice. If three rogue employees and 18 cheating basketball players over a five-year period at Minnesota merited those strong words, what will the NCAA eventually say about a bogus-class scheme in Chapel Hill that Wainstein found to involve more than 3,100 students — 47.4 percent of them athletes — over 18 years?

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Just how widespread was this ring of corruption? Jan Boxill, a philosophy professor whose formal title is director of the Parr Center for Ethics, steered women’s basketball players to Crowder and literally named their grade. “Did you say a D will do?” Crowder wrote to Boxill in an e-mail about one player who had apparently recycled an old paper. “Yes, a D will be fine; that’s all she needs,” Boxill replied.

It’s standard practice these days to mock the NCAA for its antiquated rules and haphazard enforcement of them, but the North Carolina report does not involve tattoos for memorabilia, free hotel stays or agent payments. It details systemic abuse of the one area the NCAA purportedly holds most dear. Its mission statement, according to president Mark Emmert, is “to be an integral part of higher education and to focus on the development of our student-athletes.” Those Enterprise rental car commercials, those “going pro in something other than sports” PSAs, the obsession with APR scores and Graduation Success Rates — all reinforce the NCAA’s stated-though-not-always-followed contention that academics are paramount to the college athlete’s experience.

So today, Emmert and the NCAA face a defining moment. What are they going to do about North Carolina? How do you appropriately reprimand a university whose employees spent 18 years making a mockery of higher education? Who put the competitive needs of athletics above the academic development of students? Who made “the most serious academic fraud violations in 20 years” — Haskins’ 18 cheating basketball players — seem like child’s play when compared with the unfathomable scope of UNC’s “shadow curriculum.”

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On the bright side, former assistant DC Jimbo Withers is one of only four people who refused to cooperate with the investigation.
 
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