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ORD_Buckeye said:
I'm ok with making some compromises for athletes, but it's ridiculous. Serious, selective universities are literally bringing in students who are functionally--if not downright literally--illiterate.

We refused to submit ACT/SAT scores to a CNN request. We did release some in-house testing on them that we do when they enter the university. We did alright--perhaps better than I feared--and most of the players come in with college or upper high school math and reading levels. That being said, there are still a shocking number coming in with reading and math levels in the 3rd to 7th grade levels. One even tested out at 1st grade math levels.

You simply can't tell me that those kids are A) going to benefit from an Ohio State education in any manner and B) are even capable of maintaining eligibility--which supposedly includes "progress towards a degree--in anything approaching a legit manner.

Thinking a little more about this, I do almost agree with the cult in a way. They came down hard on Penn State over the Sandusky/Paterno scandal (and rightfully so!) in a large part because it was easy to do. They knew that the odds of similar scandals being uncovered throughout college football were virtually nil. Conversely, the reason they seem to not want to touch the UNC scandal with a ten foot pole is because deep down they god damned know that this kind of [Mark May] is happening throughout college football and basketball.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1003577-ohio-state-university.html

It's my understanding that once one looks beyond the revenue sports this isn't a problem. Student-Athletes in the non-revenue sports are coming in at or above normal university admission standards and performing and graduating at levels at or above the normal student. It's solely a football and men's basketball problem.
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I wonder if this is primarily due to professional sports using colleges as a farm system, or the influence of television money? My gut tells me it's largely television money driving this bus. I don't believe universities who are admitting these guys benefit directly from the NFL and NBA. Rather, they lose every time a star player leaves before their eligibility is up.
 
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CincyInterloper said:
I wonder if this is primarily due to professional sports using colleges as a farm system, or the influence of television money? My gut tells me it's largely television money driving this bus. I don't believe universities who are admitting these guys benefit directly from the NFL and NBA. Rather, they lose every time a star player leaves before their eligibility is up.
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The sad history of college athletics is a repeating theme -for reasons no one can understand or explain, acamedicians have lowered their standards in search of athletic glory for their schools. Boilermakers, real boilermakers, played football for Purdue long before TV money was available. Thurber's classic, University Days, contains a tale of an athlete who has no business on any college campus, but there he is in an OSU economics classroom with a professor and fellow students working hard to keep him eligible for the big game with Illinois. This is hardly a "breaking story."
 
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cincibuck said:
The sad history of college athletics is a repeating theme -for reasons no one can understand or explain, acamedicians have lowered their standards in search of athletic glory for their schools. Boilermakers, real boilermakers, played football for Purdue long before TV money was available. Thurber's classic, University Days, contains a tale of an athlete who has no business on any college campus, but there he is in an OSU economics classroom with a professor and fellow students working hard to keep him eligible for the big game with Illinois. This is hardly a "breaking story."
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Right on. This stuff happened before the turn of the century ... the Twentieth Century.

You can blame a lot of stuff on Modern Big Money College Football, but the admission of unqualified "student"-athletes isn't one of them.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
It's my understanding that once one looks beyond the revenue sports this isn't a problem. Student-Athletes in the non-revenue sports are coming in at or above normal university admission standards and performing and graduating at levels at or above the normal student. It's solely a football and men's basketball problem.
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From a buddy on the Florida swim team. Ryan Lochte struggles to put sentences together, but he can win Olympic Gold which is a ton more important. Yes the revenue sports have a lot more push in letting in kids with an elementary school reading level. But the coaches in non revenue sports still need to win and it isn't as bad but I can't imagine how many they let in with a jr high reading level.
 
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Zurp said:
Found it on BWI:
http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&mid=172019770&sid=890&tid=172019770&style=1

Article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...blower-alleges-widespread-academic-fraud.html
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And of course, it never dawns on the cult that when Joesus was turning 700 SAT scorers into Parks & Recreation graduates none of that shit might have been going on in Joestown. Penn State is the only university that I've ever seen whose media guide does not list their football players' majors. If they occasionally have a legit major it's noted in the biographical text, but there is no standard, universal listing of players' majors.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
And of course, it never dawns on the cult that when Joesus was turning 700 SAT scorers into Parks & Recreation graduates none of that [Mark May] might have been going on in Joestown. Penn State is the only university that I've ever seen whose media guide does not list their football players' majors. If they occasionally have a legit major it's noted in the biographical text, but there is no standard, universal listing of players' majors.
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"It was rough," the former Penn State player stated. "You play all those home games in Pleasantville where everything is perfect and in black and white, and then you go on the road and discover there's color."
 
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http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...ll-star-rashad-mccants-says-took-sham-classes

UNC's McCants: 'Just show up, play'

Rashad McCants, the second-leading scorer on the North Carolina basketball team that won the 2004-05 national title, told ESPN's "Outside the Lines" that tutors wrote his term papers, he rarely went to class for about half his time at UNC, and he remained able to play largely because he took bogus classes designed to keep athletes academically eligible.

McCants told "Outside the Lines" that he could have been academically ineligible to play during the championship season had he not been provided the assistance. Further, he said head basketball coach Roy Williams knew about the "paper class" system at UNC. The so-called paper classes didn't require students to go to class; rather, students were required to submit only one term paper to receive a grade.

McCants also told "Outside the Lines" that he even made the dean's list in the spring of 2005 despite not attending any of his four classes for which he received straight-A grades. He said advisers and tutors who worked with the basketball program steered him to take the paper classes within the African-American Studies program.

McCants' allegations mirror and amplify many of those first made public in 2011, when the Raleigh (N.C.) News & Observer began to report about widespread academic fraud at UNC. The scandal has centered on the African-American Studies classes that many athletes took in order to remain eligible. The newspaper reported in December 2012 that basketball players on the national championship team accounted for 15 enrollments in the classes. A UNC internal investigation found that 54 classes in the department of African and Afro-American Studies were either "aberrant" or "irregularly" taught from summer 2007 to summer 2011. That investigation only went back to 2007, according to the school's review, because the two senior associate deans who conducted the probe were told by Karen Gil, dean of the College of Arts and Sciences, to focus on that time frame.

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NCAA ready to sniff around UNC once more

The NCAA is heading back to Chapel Hill, North Carolina. UNC has received a notice of inquiry from the NCAA that an investigation into academic concerns will officially be reopened in light of new evidence and reports concerning academic problems in the university’s athletics department.
The NCAA released the following statement Monday afternoon;

“The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, was cited by the Division I Committee on Infractions in 2012 for violations in its athletics program, including academic misconduct. As with any case, the NCAA enforcement staff makes clear it will revisit the matter if additional information becomes available. After determining that additional people with information and others who were previously uncooperative might be willing to speak with the enforcement staff, the NCAA has reopened its investigation. The enforcement staff is exploring this new information to ensure an exhaustive investigation is conducted based on all available information. The NCAA will not comment further to protect the integrity of the investigation.”

Entire article: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/30/ncaa-ready-to-sniff-around-unc-once-more/
 
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ScriptOhio said:
NCAA ready to sniff around UNC once more

The NCAA is heading back to Chapel Hill, North Carolina. UNC has received a notice of inquiry from the NCAA that an investigation into academic concerns will officially be reopened in light of new evidence and reports concerning academic problems in the university’s athletics department.
The NCAA released the following statement Monday afternoon;

“The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, was cited by the Division I Committee on Infractions in 2012 for violations in its athletics program, including academic misconduct. As with any case, the NCAA enforcement staff makes clear it will revisit the matter if additional information becomes available. After determining that additional people with information and others who were previously uncooperative might be willing to speak with the enforcement staff, the NCAA has reopened its investigation. The enforcement staff is exploring this new information to ensure an exhaustive investigation is conducted based on all available information. The NCAA will not comment further to protect the integrity of the investigation.”

Entire article: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/30/ncaa-ready-to-sniff-around-unc-once-more/
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When did the integrity of the investigation become a priority for the NCAA? Does Auburn still possess their crystal trophy? Any more abortions for hookers showing up in Miami?
 
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Report: North Carolina investigates alleged hazing

It seems academic fraud, illicit benefits and NCAA sanctions weren’t embarrassing enough for the North Carolina Tar Heels football program.

Head coach Larry Fedora was eventually hired to replace the ousted Butch Davis and interim coach Everett Withers to give the program a fresh slate. Instead, Fedora is going to be mired in yet another controversy within the program.

Allegations of hazing have been reported, according to Yahoo Sports.

“During the first week of August, redshirt freshman walk-on wide receiver Jackson Boyer was involved in an alleged physical altercation with multiple teammates in his room at the A-Loft hotel in Chapel Hill where the team was staying during fall camp. … The incident allegedly left Boyer with a concussion,” sources told Yahoo Sports’ Eric Adelson and Pat Forde.

Entire article: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...r-heels-investigates-alleged-hazing-incident/
 
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