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Mike80 said:
And the bolded is a hilarious contradiction so I'll just stop there and disagree to disagree.
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Explain to me how that's a contradiction. Here's an analogy you might be able to wrap your mind around: I have a car (team) that does 200 mph, while the other 119 cars (teams) can only do anywhere from 150-180, because I always get the best parts (players), have the best mechanics (coaches and coordinators), and driver (head coach). NASCAR (NCAA) now restricts the amount of parts any race team can have (preventing the stockpiling of all the best parts), and subsequently all the other race teams can get high-end parts previously unobtainable. Now, the field improves to where nearly every car can do at least mid-180s, with many getting into the 190s (significantly reducing the difference between the worst and best teams, i.e., leveling the playing field). Everyone else has significantly improved, yet I'm not hurt since I can still do 200 mph because I am still able to get the very best parts...I'm simply not able to stockpile more than I need and keep them away from the other teams. Since I'm able to do 200 mph while everyone else is no better than the 190s, I'm going to win nearly every race. That's how Nebraska functioned immediately after the scholarship reductions.
 
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knapplc said:
Sorry I haven't been around. It's been really busy at HuskerBoard, as you all can imagine, and I haven't had much time to converse elsewhere.

I was glad to see that smarter minds prevailed in this situation. Firing Pelini for something he did two years ago, that the Athletic Department has known about since the day he said these things, would have been utterly stupid. I don't know if you guys listened to the audio, but the woman you hear in that recording is our Sports Information Director, Chris Anderson. It's not like the administration would have been blindsided by this - and it's not as if Bo hasn't ever said anything like this before that recording was made - or after, actually.

I'm mostly glad the asshat that leaked this won't be getting what he wanted - Pelini's ouster. His stated reason for disclosing this, that he was pissed about Bo coming down on Tommie Frazier (even though Bo didn't - but that's another story), is freaking stupid. He's using a sledgehammer to swat a gnat. Really glad they didn't rise to the bait.

Pelini has his on-field problems, as everyone who follows college football knows well enough. His off-field demeanor is not the best, but I'd rather he gets praised or punished for what he does on the field than off the field, barring major asshattery.
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he doesn't deserve to get canned for his rant, he deserves to get canned because of his abysmal performance in marque match ups.

the rant just makes it easier.

it's a lot harder to fire a nice guy then someone who comes off like an immature asshole throwing temper tantrums every time you turn around.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Bret "Douchebag Deluxe" Bielema was able to recruit top-notch OL, WR, DL, and RB to Wisconsin, a school with nowhere near the tradition Nebraska has, despite being a total fucking dickhead...
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My point exactly, Bert is an idiot. Wisconsin is a 2nd tier program. Since Bert got there, they have recruited as a 2nd tier program at best, some years they would be lucky to pull in a top 50 class. Wisconsin recruiting did not improve when Bert got there. There are some position groups he did better with or the occasional star that they would bring in, but not a well rounded top tier class. Nebraska should be recruiting as a top tier program, but Pelini brings them down to where they are lucky to bring in a top 25 class. They should be getting a top 15 class every year. Plus Bert does not come off as as big of an ass on the sidelines.

DiamondBuck said:
The situation you've described would read almost identically if you substituted Brian Kelly and Tommy Rees for Pellini and Martinez. Somehow BK manages to recruit.
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Similar to how the Nebraska name recruits for Pelini, the Notre Dame name does most of the recruiting for Brian Kelly, IMO. The Notre Dame name just carries a little more weight and is a better school than Nebraska. Plus the national title run is helping. Rivals by year for Notre Dame, he didn't help recruiting:
Kelly Recruiting Years
2013: 3rd
2012: 20th
2011: 10th
2010: 14th
Weis Recruiting Years (Hired for 05 year)
2009: 21st
2008: 2nd
2007: 8th
2006: 8th
2005: 40th
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
My point exactly, Bert is an idiot. Wisconsin is a 2nd tier program. Since Bert got there, they have recruited as a 2nd tier program at best, some years they would be lucky to pull in a top 50 class. Wisconsin recruiting did not improve when Bert got there. There are some position groups he did better with or the occasional star that they would bring in, but not a well rounded top tier class. Nebraska should be recruiting as a top tier program, but Pelini brings them down to where they are lucky to bring in a top 25 class. They should be getting a top 15 class every year. Plus Bert does not come off as as big of an ass on the sidelines.
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All of this is true, but historically Wisconsin has relied on a very strong player development program that helps them compete. I don't think it's necessary for Nebraska to do the same in order to compete (I think they've got enough cache nationally to recruit nationally), but it certainly can't hurt. Guys like Chris Maragos, J.J. Watt, Mark Tauscher, Jim Leonhard, and most recently Jared Abbrederis have all been relatively unknown when they came to the program but blossomed into stars.
 
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alexhortdog95 said:
Petey gets fired, Doc Tom gets rehired, and Cally follows Petey out the door (along with his little buddy, Jim Rose). Doc Tom gets the fans pick, Bo Pelini, a hot name coming off besting a pretty damn good Buckeyes team in the National Championship game.
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i guess the irony of that was that the Buckeyes actually outgained LSU by 100 yards in that game.
it was the combination of momentum swinging penalties, even more untimely turnovers, and Rickey-Jean Francois that doomed Ohio State that night.
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
Nebraska should be recruiting as a top tier program, but Pelini brings them down to where they are lucky to bring in a top 25 class.

Similar to how the Nebraska name recruits for Pelini, the Notre Dame name does most of the recruiting for Brian Kelly, IMO.
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I looked at a list of the top 40 rated recruits in the BIG this year and Nebraska had exactly 1 of them. Penn State had a couple and a few other schools had 1 apiece. Ohio State and scUM account for about 3/4 of those top guys. In recruiting it's the Big 2 and then the rest - there is a big gap between 1/2 and #3. That puts the other 10/12 teams at a big disadvantage.

I think Penn State has a chance to do well once their sanctions are done because top players, especially offensive skill players, want to play for BOB.

Lincoln is a very nice place in the middle of thousands of square miles of corn and soy bean fields. The Platte River breaks up that scenery a bit, but that's pretty much it. I think to go from averaging 3 star classes to 4 star classes, they need to have a coach that the better players are dying to play for. I don't think BoP has that kind of cache. But if you fire him, who does have that kind of attractiveness that you can replace him with? Tough problem.
 
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knapplc said:
Sorry I haven't been around. It's been really busy at HuskerBoard, as you all can imagine, and I haven't had much time to converse elsewhere.

I was glad to see that smarter minds prevailed in this situation. Firing Pelini for something he did two years ago, that the Athletic Department has known about since the day he said these things, would have been utterly stupid. I don't know if you guys listened to the audio, but the woman you hear in that recording is our Sports Information Director, Chris Anderson. It's not like the administration would have been blindsided by this - and it's not as if Bo hasn't ever said anything like this before that recording was made - or after, actually.

I'm mostly glad the asshat that leaked this won't be getting what he wanted - Pelini's ouster. His stated reason for disclosing this, that he was pissed about Bo coming down on Tommie Frazier (even though Bo didn't - but that's another story), is freaking stupid. He's using a sledgehammer to swat a gnat. Really glad they didn't rise to the bait.

Pelini has his on-field problems, as everyone who follows college football knows well enough. His off-field demeanor is not the best, but I'd rather he gets praised or punished for what he does on the field than off the field, barring major asshattery.
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This! And, yeah, I haven't been around much either! But firing Pelini now, for that 2 year old tape - would have been complete suicide for Nebraska - sure glad cooler heads prevailed.

As for the on-field performance - I honestly think one of the major issues is that Bo promoted a guy to DC who is only about 4 or 5 years removed from being a graduate assistant. While we're not currently paying what tOSU does for assistant coaches, I sure think we should be able to draw more experience to a Coordinator position than that. I think Papuchis is in way over his head at that position. I just hope that unless we see huge defensive improvements through the rest of the season, that Bo won't let personal loyalty to friends get in the way of making a change in DC during the off-season.
 
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DallasHusker said:
...I sure think we should be able to draw more experience to a Coordinator position than that. I think Papuchis is in way over his head at that position. I just hope that unless we see huge defensive improvements through the rest of the season, that Bo won't let personal loyalty to friends get in the way of making a change in DC during the off-season.
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Yeah, absolutely. Papuchis is a great guy and all, but he can't be the best available.

Rumors out of Husker fans are that Bo is taking control of the defense, relegating Papuchis to a figurehead. Not sure how I feel about that.
 
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