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Nebraska Cornhuskers (corn)

Muck;1983679; said:
The last thing the conference needs is another group of fans who see everything as a vast conspiracy meant to keep them down.
I wouldn't have a lot of faith when that's been the M.O. of Nebraska for the previous 15 years when it was those meanies at Texas conspiring against them.
 
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buckeyesin07;1983693; said:
Here, here. The last thing the Big Ten needs is another whining fanbase, and the lingering sentiment about the aTm game from last year and the Texas game the year before don't exactly inspire a great deal of confidence for my hope.

Nebraska got hosed in the aTm game last year. To act like Husker fans are whiners because they complain about the reffing in that game is a joke.

If tOSU had been on the other side of those calls, this board would have been exploding, and folks on here would be complaining about it for years.
 
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Dryden;1983696; said:
I wouldn't have a lot of faith when that's been the M.O. of Nebraska for the previous 15 years when it was those meanies at Texas conspiring against them.

Right, because Texas has proven themselves to be such good conference mates over the years. Who could ever believe such an outlandish tale that Texas manipulated things to favor Texas? What poppycock!

I'm not going to blow sunshine up your ass and say that Nebraska Fan doesn't have its share of whiners and hyperbolists when we all know those people exist in every fan base everywhere. We have legitimate gripes to air about the way the Big XII was formed and ran. We have legitimate gripes to air about how we were treated over the last year of our membership. But to write the whole fan base off because we griped about our time in the Big XII - that's a little much, no?

Should I bother to point out the paranoia (legitimate, no doubt) I've witnessed in my few months here? Would comparison help the conversation, or would it become irrational and devolve into bickering? Or could we just be realists about who and what our respective fan bases are made of and dispense with the broad-brush denouncements?
 
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Muck;1983679; said:
The last thing the conference needs is another group of fans who see everything as a vast conspiracy meant to keep them down.
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Gatorubet;1983703; said:

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Gatorubet again.



I rolled my eyes just a little bit after reading some of the comments here. I would have thought a fan base that got ass-raped over the last few months would be a little more apt to empathy. Seems not everyone got that memo.

EDIT - speaking of A&M, we're having some very congenial conversations with A&M Fan these days. Seems they kinda understand what we went through last year, and our level of agreement is at an all-time high. We've always gotten along with A&M quite well - they're good people. It's nice to see that we're in accord again, but sad that we're no longer conference mates. So it goes.
 
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Muck;1983679; said:
No quite frankly it doesn't.

It makes it very clear that both institutions had conflict with Nebraska in the past & that Perlman extrapolated that into a conspiracy theory that they had gone against Nebraska in the AAU vote as well.

It does however explicitly state that the actual votes are not known. that B1G presidents unanimously voted for Nebraska's membership into the conference & that the Wisconsin chancellor specifically mentioned Nebraska's AAU membership as a factor in her decision to vote for their membership.

Nebraska knew exactly what was needed to maintain AAU membership & the University leadership failed to do what was necessary to achieve that goal. Perhaps actually making large strides towards meeting the criteria that was laid out would have been a better strategy than going in at the eleventh hour & complaining about said criteria & how unfair it is.

Please don't turn into the new Penn State...they've made an art out of whining over the past 15 years. The last thing the conference needs is another group of fans who see everything as a vast conspiracy meant to keep them down.


FWIW, that's exactly what this board has been doing in relation to the notion of media or ESPN out to get us.
 
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SidehatchHusker;1983735; said:
The offense looked green in their first game of the year. I was disappointed, but not suprised. The big thing for me is that I expect the offense to get better, not worse as the season goes on. Unlike the last few years.

Nice picture of Doc! :biggrin:


I have high hopes that the offense will continue to improve as the season wears on, rather than devolve into a mess like years past. Hopefully Garrison/Stai will light a fire under the O Line like Barney has been unable to do, and you have GOT to like the attitude Beck brings to the OC position. I don't know if he can coach the position yet, but he sure talks the talk - like an Offensive Bo Pelini.
 
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BB73;1983697; said:
Nebraska got hosed in the aTm game last year. To act like Husker fans are whiners because they complain about the reffing in that game is a joke.

If tOSU had been on the other side of those calls, this board would have been exploding, and folks on here would be complaining about it for years.

But would they take to opposing teams' message boards to do so? :wink2:

And let's just say that the aTm game wasn't the only instance.
 
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knapplc;1983695; said:
Kindly explain what strides needed to be made,

some

what changes were made by Nebraska,

none

and how those fell short.

some > none


The AAU's two-phase membership criteria focus primarily on an institution's amount of competitive research funds and its share of faculty members who belong to the National Academies. Faculty awards and citations are also taken into account.
Presidents say that in recent years discussions about membership in the association have become much more quantified, with an increasing emphasis on a rankings methodology developed by the membership committee and senior AAU staff. Last April the association as a whole adopted revised criteria that compared AAU institutions with nonmembers on research dollars and eliminated the assumption that current members would automatically continue on.
"It was very clear that the easiest path to scoring high on the criteria is to have large medical schools or large science and engineering faculties," said Nancy Cantor

IOW, sounds like maybe there's a little too much corn in that academic diet.
 
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BayBuck;1983753; said:

BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!

But hey, thanks for playing! Tell him what he's won, Don Pardo.

I fully expect a better answer from Muck, whose superior knowledge can't help but give detailed examples of the improvements made by UNL over the past decade - a decade which has seen unprecedented growth across the NU system and at UNL in particular.
 
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