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methomps said:
I don't like the guy, but I think you're really digging here. A person can state an opinion without using 'I'.
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No, I just hate ubiquitous-you statements because they invite this sort of ambiguity. If you want to state an opinion, (you should) say "I" or "you should", not simply "you". I know it's obviously his opinion, but I disagree with both the intent and the expression of that opinion.
 
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It's hard not to share BayBuck's frustrations with the glorification of St. Charlie. It's equally hard to not agree with methomps, it really is time to stop picking nits here.

I actually don't think there is much to discuss in terms of competitive intelligence once you open up to another team, pro or college. Ohio State and many other college teams share information with other college teams outside their conference and don't seem to regret it.

Even if one accepts that pro and college coaches don't talk, and that's pretty hard to believe, if you visit a pro team chances are that someone, oh say their offensive coordinator :tongue2: , could end up on the other side of the college football field next year.

Also, any top coach can read the tea leaves if he sees enough film, so the college/pro sharing thing is really a moot argument.

Thump makes a valid point about this thread running its course.

However, it is hard for people to not react when Chief posts "spin" stuff about Weis and Notre Dame. The facts are that Weis is arrogant. He is so fantastically ego-centric that his opinions are stated as if they were truths. He has said some incredibly silly and classless things.

Should Buckeye fans take these things personally? Well, only insofar as the media buys in and Notre Dame gets another unfair rating that possibly blocks us from a deserved shot at the National Championship.

Actually, it is possible to see Weis through compassionate eyes. And to feel some sympathy for his arrogance and weight, which are the known signs of a very insecure person.

Taking this "kindler, gentler" route may offer the potential for our own growth as human beings and lead us to ask important questions. Maybe "in Charlie's world" everything revolves around him because he is constantly overwhelmed by an internal monologue about his own self-esteem? Perhaps he makes comments about Tressel's achievement because he is constantly running others down internally to try to combat his own insecurities and true lack of self-esteem? What if he is compelled to visit the pro teams simply because he is driven by internal demons to leverage himself above other coaches so as to not shatter a fragile self-image?

On the other hand, what if he's just a fat ass with no class? You decide. :biggrin:
 
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Wow hard to believe all the crap you guys give CW!! And for what, why,
has he really done a thing? Yet you defend and honor Woody after what he did? If any other coach in America had hit another player you guys would have torched him worse than you do MoC. From what I have heard from you guys I have determined that Woody as a great coach/man who had a temper and made a mistake.

So CW is fat, so what? JT dresses like a nerd/geek with those sweater vests and yet I have never called him either of those things?? And dont even give me crap about the nerd thing because not one of you would wear one. Heck JT has that grin of his that is I so desired I could call that a "smug" grin or just a confident one. Who really cares?

Bottom line all 3 coach's have used their positions to help OSU, ND and others in need. Woody and JT have already earned their legacy while it is much to early to see where CW will fall . Like him or not wins, rankings recruiting, he is off to a good start.


BTW- Did you guys hear that Zibby is going to fight an OSU fan who will wear an OSU jersey into the ring.
 
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Bucknut319 said:
Ahhh....man boobs. I believe Frank Costanza sent him "The Bro" to take care of that problem.
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My wife coined a new phrase after the Masters this year. With Phil gaining some weight in the chest area, the term "man boobs" has now been replaced with "Mickelsons" in the Tlangs household. The term seems to have evolved to included women as well. We were walking through the mall a few weeks ago and my wife pointed to a scantily clad young lady wearing a tank top and said "I can't beleive her mother would let her out of the house with her Micklesons hanging out like that"
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
Wow hard to believe all the crap you guys give CW!! And for what, why,
has he really done a thing? Yet you defend and honor Woody after what he did? If any other coach in America had hit another player you guys would have torched him worse than you do MoC. From what I have heard from you guys I have determined that Woody as a great coach/man who had a temper and made a mistake.

So CW is fat, so what? JT dresses like a nerd/geek with those sweater vests and yet I have never called him either of those things?? And dont even give me crap about the nerd thing because not one of you would wear one. Heck JT has that grin of his that is I so desired I could call that a "smug" grin or just a confident one. Who really cares?

Bottom line all 3 coach's have used their positions to help OSU, ND and others in need. Woody and JT have already earned their legacy while it is much to early to see where CW will fall . Like him or not wins, rankings recruiting, he is off to a good start.
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Because Weis is a fat, pompous, arrogant, self-centered fuck, that's why. He thinks he's hot shit because he has Super Bowl rings, but he's proven jack shit in college.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Because Weis is a fat, pompous, arrogant, self-centered fuck, that's why. He thinks he's hot shit because he has Super Bowl rings, but he's proven jack shit in college.
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Agreed. I also find it funny that he flaunts those Super Bowl rings as if he were the head coach of those Patroit teams.

By the way, I've worn sweater vests before, so I resent your comment, NDChief. :biggrin:
 
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Cornerback6 said:
I am a very forgiving person and I usually wish negative upon nobody, BUT...after having worked with douchebag-arrogant Quinn, I hope he stays healthy (the good side of me speaking), but has a miserable NFL career. I have met around 30 college football players personally including MoC and NO ONE, I mean NO ONE compares to Brady. He would walk in the store and even the girls would be like, "ohhh man, Brady has to work today?".

On Weis, I also wish him good health but a miserable career. His pompous (almost sincerely smart-alec, but you could tell he meant it) crack on JT's college NC rings drives me nutty. And his whole 6 weeks of preparation joke...I hope they lose 5 this year. Last year half their schedule was having a down year...most notably Tennessee, Purdue, scUM (5 losses not good enough) & Pitt...so was their 8-3 all that great? We'll see this year.
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id beg to differ. maybe he comes off brash but many kids do. hes a quality kid and if he was playing in columbus on saturdays youd be happy as hell to have him.

that being sad, i think at a certain point the charlie jokes have a good place in the od forum. the occasional one is fine but 75% of these posts are negative. i think its time for all of us to show some class and move on, the points been made.
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
Well heck if that's the case I can have a whole lot of fun with JT! And dont even get me started on Woody.....
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Hayes wasn't an obese fuck. Hayes didn't flaunt his "successes". Hayes didn't disrespect opposing head coaches. Yeah, he had a fiery temper at times and he lost it when he popped that Clemson player, but he had 28 years as head coach at Ohio State, two at Miami (Oh), and three at Denison, so I think his long tenure as a great and proven coach pretty much override his faux paus. Oh yeah, he's in the College Football Hall of Fame, while Weis is in the Burger King drive-through...
 
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Woody hit an opposing player!! The punch (IMO) was being both arrogant and direspectful combined.

Obviously OSU did not agree with that you that all those years of great coaching out-weighed the punch.
Not saying it is right but that punch will always be the first thing the average (non OSU fan)
fan thinks about when they think of Woody Hayes.
 
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