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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
Woody hit an opposing player, which is worse than being fat, arrogant and disrespectful combined . Why did he hit an opposing player? IMO, he thought he was to good to lose. And you say CW is arrogant......
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Un-fucking-believeable. If you did ANY research into Woody AT ALL, then there is no way that you could rationally come to the conclusion that he was an arrogant man. There are countless numbers of examples of his acts of compassion, generosity, humility, and the desire to see OTHER PEOPLE succeed that span 3 decades. And those are only the ones that were documented. That was a Dick statement. Fuck you.

Why did he hit a player? It had nothing to do with being too good to lose. I doubt that you would ever be able to find any evidence to substantiate that claim. It was becasue he made a poor decision in the heat of the moment in reaction to a player that was way out of line by getting in the face of the opposing coach. Have you ever considered that what transpired there has never happened again that we know about. Obviously, you have never considered that the ramifications of what that act did and how it changed the way that players and coaches, opposing teams, and fans in general look at the game of college football and interact with one another. Yeah, Woody screamed up and down the sidelines, frequently he said colorful things and once in a while he would act out to create a point. Did you know that some of that, probably most was a ruse. One of Woody's assistants, sorry, dont remember which, once told a journalist that he used to cut the stiches in his cap so it would tear more easily when he tore it up? A lot of his actions were premeditated to get his team and the fans fired up. To be passionate about something. To be as passionate about the Buckeyes as he was. something of which he was proud to be a part of and something of which we are now all proud to be apart of. His passion for the kids that he came into contact with on the football field spilled over into the classroom. It was important to be successful on the football field because that was something that you can take with you now. A victory. Something that no one could ever take away from you. Something that you hold as your own. Immediately. And something, NDChief, that you should actually be greateful that he did because of the people that he sent your way. But it was equally as important to be a good person, be a good student becasue that is something that you take with you forever. A more important victory. I victory that gives you dignity.
It is sad that many outside of OSU football will remember Woody for nothing other than that infamous moment . They will never remember, or ever even likely hear the words, "pay it forward." or "you win with people." I suppose on this board it is a bit cliche, but nonetheless true.


NDCheif, there is no, nor will there ever be an accurate comparison made between Woody Hayes and Charlie Weis. It could only be as accurate as 30+ years of Excellence, Honor, Integrity, Humility, Compassion and Kindness vs. 1 year of Arrogance and unfulfilled expectations. I hope that this thread is now closed to this subject.
 
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some of you guys forget that many people thought woody was arrogant as hell.
1- he was the first to call his own plays
2- he lined his team up 5 yards from the los rather than the standard 10, when asked about it he said he could run more plays a game that way and even if the other team knew what was comming they couldnt stop it.

i think this shit really needs to stop, nothing productive is comming out of this...
 
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I agree with the thoughts that this has become a mess...

It can be a mess but not on the most recent list anymore. The discussion can continue along whatever path you guys see fit...but it stays in the reference locker for now.
 
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FWIW

None of you have to convince me what a great man Woody Hayes was!
I have read enough here to know many, many goods things he did in his life.
Dont think for a second that you all have not educated me very well on what a kid caring person Woody Hayes was despite my post.

I had attempted to edit that post to convey that but somehow the edit got lost....
 
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jwinslow;273299; said:
not sure what there is to dislike about Weis... if its just hatred by association of domers, then I guess I understand. But Weis is about as classy as they come. Refuses to get overconfident, very respectful to opponents, and beats UM. Seems like a good guy to me :)
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:shake: You disgust me.



:p

This thread is hilarious.
 
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