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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
Yes you have lost everyone of the fan base discussions and you have even admitted to ND's fan base on this board several times. Be it the Harris poll, USA today ND wins that discussion every time. You actually did not base fan numbers on that games attendance did you? LOL!

And yes that Harris poll probably was an an ND page but it came from the Harris poll page.

Go ahead, just for fun, search most popular college football team on your puter and see what comes up...
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Lost? Because you said so? :slappy:

I've said ND's fan base rivals ours, but never said it equals, let alone exceeds, ours. What better way to determine fan base than to have those top two fan base teams meet in a top-flight bowl game on a neutral site? Not only did we beat your ass on the field, but clearly had more fan support.

As for the Harris poll, Steve19 ripped it apart in an earlier post. You want to base your claim of Notre Dame's popularity on some random poll that asked 1200 or so people about college football? Maybe you know that our country has 270 million or so people, so you think the sample size of 1 in 225,000 people is representative?

By the way, I just Googled "most popular football team" and Notre Dame was nowhere to be found.
 
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Sure you did !! I know what came up. As I said earlier USA Today had a poll a few years ago as well and ND came out on top. And why do most of you all bitch about ND being the media darling? EASY! FAN BASE! If OSU had the fan base ND does it would be the media darling but that is not the case. You are lucky that I dont have the time to check your past posts.
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
Actually flop Mirer's numbers are not that bad.

Eddie 9 seasons 12,668 yards 82 TD's
Rick 12 seasons 13,099 yards 50 TD's
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Side-by-side, a QB's numbers and a RB's numbers are apples and oranges. Peyton Manning threw for 49 TD's in one year, so 50 in a career is definitely mediocre for a QB.
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
Actually flop Mirer's numbers are not that bad.

Eddie 9 seasons 12,668 yards 82 TD's
Rick 12 seasons 13,099 yards 50 TD's
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Side-by-side, a QB's numbers and a RB's numbers are apples and oranges. Peyton Manning threw for 49 TD's in one year, so 50 in a career is definitely mediocre for a QB.
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
Because he played in a 3 yards and a cloud of dust system with a great line and one of the best fullbacks in college football history blocking for him. There have been many very good "system" Heisman winners and when they got to the NFL it proved it's point. The best make it in the NFL, you cant deny that. I am not trolling as you say as I know for a fact there are more than a few Buckeye fans that agree. Archie was an outstanding college player but the system helped him greatly.
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Actually, Archie's stats were HURT his senior year, b/c Woody always preferred the FB to be the primary ballcarrier, and increased Pete Johnson's role, to the point where Johnson was pretty much the #1 RZ option and scored something like 20 TDs that year. If Archie had played for a coach who just let the FB block, and the RB get all the yards/TDs, his senior year stats would have been much more impressive-his senior year, he actually had a worse year, statistically, than his junior year. Know your Buckeye history before you come talking smack about Archie on here!
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
ALABAMA Todd, Stabler, Starr, Namath 99,907 passing yards 630 TD'S
ND Lomonica, Montana, Beurlein, Theismann 108,957 passing 722 TD'S
HMMM yes one is clearly better and it is not Alabama....
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Oh gee, and here I thought that A) football was more than numbers, and B) Comparing the numbers of different eras was meaningless, because everyone threw the ball a whole lot more after 1980

This is logic is so laughable it's hard to contain myself, but here's two more examples of numbers:

HOF QBs: Oregon 2, ND 1

Guess that settles it right, Oregon is better, because who can argue with numbers?

And even better:

Joe Montana career: 40,551 yards passing, 273 TDs
Dave Krieg career: 38,147 yards, 261 TDs

So by your rationale, Joe Montana does not belong in the Hall of Fame, because Dave Krieg isn't there...after all, look at the numbers!


You are trying to dig your way out of a 10 foot hole with a plastic shovel.
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
You are lucky that I dont have the time to check your past posts.
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Go for it. I challenge you to find one, just one, post of mine that says the ND fan base is more extensive than ours.

As for your links "proving" your point, links #1 and #3 don't even mention Notre Dame while #2, #4, #5, and #6 are rehashes of the same flawed Harris Poll. I didn't even bother to check #7, seeing as your first six were off...
 
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stxbuck said:
Actually, Archie's stats were HURT his senior year, b/c Woody always preferred the FB to be the primary ballcarrier, and increased Pete Johnson's role, to the point where Johnson was pretty much the #1 RZ option and scored something like 20 TDs that year. If Archie had played for a coach who just let the FB block, and the RB get all the yards/TDs, his senior year stats would have been much more impressive-his senior year, he actually had a worse year, statistically, than his junior year. Know your Buckeye history before you come talking smack about Archie on here!
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And when did I say Archie was not a very good collegiate player? What I said was he was not good enough to do much as a pro.
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
And when did I say Archie was not a very good collegiate player? What I said was he was not good enough to do much as a pro.
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actually you said 'system, system, system' since someone insulted Brady with the same label, but then reneged on that claim by calling him an outstanding college player. What exactly is your definition of a 'system' player?
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Go for it. I challenge you to find one, just one, post of mine that says the ND fan base is more extensive than ours.

As for your links "proving" your point, links #1 and #3 don't even mention Notre Dame while #2, #4, #5, and #6 are rehashes of the same flawed Harris Poll. I didn't even bother to check #7, seeing as your first six were off...
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Maybe someday but how bout you be a man and step up and admit it? You know damn well you have. When I read it I thought wow he actually admitted it.

Funny if that same poll (which is very repected) had OSU at the top you would have thought it was the greatest poll in the world.
 
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Bucklion said:
Oh gee, and here I thought that A) football was more than numbers, and B) Comparing the numbers of different eras was meaningless, because everyone threw the ball a whole lot more after 1980

This is logic is so laughable it's hard to contain myself, but here's two more examples of numbers:

HOF QBs: Oregon 2, ND 1

Guess that settles it right, Oregon is better, because who can argue with numbers?

And even better:

Joe Montana career: 40,551 yards passing, 273 TDs
Dave Krieg career: 38,147 yards, 261 TDs

So by your rationale, Joe Montana does not belong in the Hall of Fame, because Dave Krieg isn't there...after all, look at the numbers!


You are trying to dig your way out of a 10 foot hole with a plastic shovel.
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LMAO! You brought it up I proved you wrong and not you cant deal with it.
Besides I never said ND was THE best and producing QB's but they sure are better than you thought. HUH?? Besides I never compared Oregon I compared the Alabama QB's they you brought up. And you were dead wrong.
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
LMAO! You brought it up I proved you wrong and not you cant deal with it.
Besides I never said ND was THE best and producing QB's but they sure are better than you thought. HUH?? Besides I never compared Oregon I compared the Alabama QB's they you brought up. And you were dead wrong.
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actually you're the only one incapable of understanding the differences in eras... or did Daunte Culpepper (especially 04) make Joe Montana look ordinary due to better statistics? Or let's even stay in the same year, Daunte sure 'owned' Tom Brady (04), huh?
 
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