NCAA - slowly ruining football (rules changes - merged)

[Steve19]

My bet is that the outcry will ensure these rules do not go forward as planned.

 

[OH10]

Actually, the year after that. For some reason they have spared us of this stupidity this year and plan to implement that rule beginning in the 2011 season. The other rules mentioned take effect this year.

Colin Cowherd actually made a good point today on his radio show. This is a sport that encourages millionaire coaches to consciously run up the score for beauty points. But scholarship 19-year-olds are now required to reign in their emotional instincts or it could cost the team a game. Total bullshit.

We can only hope that the NCAA will come to its senses and retract the rule before the beginning of the 2011 season.

But, again, that would be giving the NCAA too much credit.

 

[zwem]

Such bullshit. Football is suppose to be fun for the fans and players.

What's next?.........You can't hit qbs, if you look at the opposing team's sideline you get an unsportsmanlike penalty, can't hit a punt returner unless he has advanced 5 yards with the football.......etc

This rule will/should be gone by 2011.

 

[jlb1705]

Colin Cowherd actually made a good point today on his radio show. This is a sport that encourages millionaire coaches to consciously run up the score for beauty points. But scholarship 19-year-olds are now required to reign in their emotional instincts or it could cost the team a game. Total bull[censored].

We can only hope that the NCAA will come to its senses and retract the rule before the beginning of the 2011 season.

But, again, that would be giving the NCAA too much credit.

...And athletic departments eagerly take in hefty sums of money for the honor of turning their football program into cannon fodder.

My opinion on taunting and running up the score are the same. If you're that offended by either one, don't allow the other team to score. That puts a stop to it better than a ref can.

 

[ScriptOhio]

NCAA Football Rule Changes

Series of rules changes approved

College football will have a few rule changes in place this fall, including one that will give teams the option of shaving 10 seconds off the clock in penalty situations.
The most notable change approved Thursday by the NCAA's Playing Rules Oversight Panel is the 10-second runoff that can occur if a team commits a penalty in the final minute of a half. Opponents will have the option of taking the yardage and the time, the yardage only or declining the penalty.
The committee also approved a rule that allows video monitors in the coaches' booths. The televisions will have access only to any live broadcast of the game -- no video recorders -- to help coaches decide if they should challenge a call. If the monitors are available to the home team, they must also be available to the visitor.
Those changes coincide with perhaps the biggest change of the season -- a taunting rule that could cost teams points.
Last April, the playing rules panel approved a decision to nullify touchdowns if a player is called for taunting before he crosses the goal line. Examples include players finishing touchdown runs by high-stepping into the end zone or pointing the ball toward an opponent.
The panel decided then to wait one year before implementing the change.
Previously, the 15-yard penalty was assessed on the extra point attempt, 2-point conversion attempt or the ensuing kickoff. Penalties called after the player crosses the goal line still will be assessed on those plays, but live-ball fouls will be assessed at the spot of the foul and eliminate the score.
The playing rules panel also approved two changes they hope will make the game safer.
Players lined up within seven yards of the center on scrimmage plays will still be permitted to block below the waist anywhere on the field.
But receivers or running backs lined up outside the tackle box will only be allowed to block below the waist if they are blocking straight ahead or toward the nearest sideline. If they go inside and block toward the play, it would be a penalty.
The defensive team also will be assessed a 5-yard penalty if three or more players try to overpower one offensive lineman on place kicks.

Entire article: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6361845&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

 

[LitlBuck]

Proposed rule changes--2012

Looks like the good old boys don't want to see any exciting kick off or punt returns:(

Following a regular meeting this week, the NCAA Football Rules Committee has recommended several rules proposals aimed at enhancing player safety for the upcoming season.
Changes are normally on a two-year cycle but the emphasis on safety was strong enough that the changes are proposed for immediate implementation in 2012.

?In all of our proposals, we are continuing the annual effort to find ways to make our game safer where we can,? said committee chair Scot Dapp. ?Without question, these changes will enhance student-athlete safety and we feel very comfortable based on the data we collected that the impact will be significant.?

Proposed changes include:

• The committee voted to move the kickoff back five yards to the 35-yard line and require that kicking team must be no further than five yards back to limit running starts. Another change was to move the touchback on kicks and safety punts to the 25-yard line to encourage more touchbacks.

• Another recommendation is if a player loses his helmet other than as the result of a facemask, it will be treated like an injury and the player must leave the game and is not allowed to participate for the next play. Also, the player must not continue to participate in play to protect him from injury.

• To clarify blocking below the waist rules, the committee approved wording that allows offensive players in the tackle box at the snap to block below the waist legally without restriction. All other players are restricted from blocking below the waist with a few exceptions.

• The committee proposed a rule similar to the leaping rule on place kicks that does not allow the receiving team on punts to jump over blockers, unless the player jumps straight up or between two players.

According to the NCAA website, the recommendations must be approved by the Playing Rules Oversight Panel, which has a teleconference scheduled for later this month.

http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/34773795

 

[scarletmike]

JFC...I understand removing yourself from the play (if possible) if your helmet gets knocked off, but should the person who knocked it off also remove themselves from the play? Is it really necessary to have a guy sit out the next play? What's next, if you take out your mouthguard between plays you have to sit out the series?

 

[HorseshoeFetish]

{sarcasm}This is bullshit! It's just another example of the NCAA still fucking with us. Just when it appears we might soon be able to score points at will on kickoffs they want to make it harder to do so.{sarcasm}

 

[Zurp]

Looks like the good old boys don't want to see any exciting kick off or punt returns:(
http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/34773795

• The committee voted to move the kickoff back five yards to the 35-yard line and require that kicking team must be no further than five yards back to limit running starts. Another change was to move the touchback on kicks and safety punts to the 25-yard line to encourage more touchbacks.

• Another recommendation is if a player loses his helmet other than as the result of a facemask, it will be treated like an injury and the player must leave the game and is not allowed to participate for the next play. Also, the player must not continue to participate in play to protect him from injury.

So the receiving team would be more willing to accept a touchback, but the kicking team would be less willing to kick the ball into the endzone. My guess is that this rule will result in FEWER touchbacks.

And are we going to see penalties for players who continue to play without a helmet? I want to see a touchdown called back because a player on the other side of the field lost his helmet and he didn't do enough to show that he was taking himself out of the play.

I'm all for safety, but this is silly. Maybe we should get all the players together and have them play a video game, where each person controls one player. I'd bet that injuries will still occur, but not as many.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I'm all for more touchbacks. Our kick coverage sucks.

 

[BB73]

So the receiving team would be more willing to accept a touchback, but the kicking team would be less willing to kick the ball into the endzone. My guess is that this rule will result in FEWER touchbacks.

That's a good point. Having the 25-yard line as the starting point will cause some coaches to teach their kickers to boot it high and land inside the 5-yard line - since the coverage team is starting off 5 yards closer, they'll have a good chance to make a tackle inside the 25-yard line.

The only portion of the proposed change I like is the part where the coverage guys can only get a 5-yard running start.

 

[BigWoof31]

I'm all for more touchbacks. Our kick coverage sucks.

Ditto. Just put the damn ball in the back of the endzone. Good things happen when they start on their 20.
I never understood why coaches would dick around with trying to trap them inside their redzone. If you've got a kid with a big leg, just have him kick the hell out of it out of bounds.

 

[Oh8ch]

IMO the issue with helmets is that kids aren't doing what they need to do to keep their helmets from coming off in the first place. Thus penalize the player who loses the helmet.

Now go tighten your chinstrap and inflate it properly.

 

[Zurp]

IMO the issue with helmets is that kids aren't doing what they need to do to keep their helmets from coming off in the first place. Thus penalize the player who loses the helmet.

Now go tighten your chinstrap and inflate it properly.

I can see that. I've never been a player, so I can't speak from experience. But I still want to see the country up in arms when a game is decided by this call. It seems very similar to the celebration penalty, as far as being a judgment call by the referees.

 

[BB73]

IMO the issue with helmets is that kids aren't doing what they need to do to keep their helmets from coming off in the first place. Thus penalize the player who loses the helmet.

Now go tighten your chinstrap and inflate it properly.

I also see the possibility of some guys trying to intentionally knock off their opponent's helmet in order to get him off the field for a big play. You're blocking a stud pass rusher on 2nd down? You might try to knock off his helmet so he won't be on the field for the 3rd down play.

Every time a rule gets passed, they need to think about how somebody can use it to their advantage, and consider that before implementing the change.

And some coaches might teach the technique. Not our completely-above-board coach, of course, but guys like Bielema and Saban.