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Name, Image, & Likeness (NIL) at tOSU

LOL. You contradicted yourself here. Are they enticing (aka recruiting) kids through these collectives or not?

Or are you hung up on it being provable?

There are no underlying charitable missions with the collectives other than getting the best players for their affiliated school. They affiliate themselves with various charities. They aren’t the charity.

I thought you were the one who knew how this worked??

You are a world class moron.

This the first time in your life you've come across the distinction between what something is on the surface and what it really does?

You can't really be this fucking stupid. Can you?
 
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You are a world class moron.

This the first time in your life you've come across the distinction between what something is on the surface and what it really does?

You can't really be this fucking stupid. Can you?

LOL. Calm down, slugger.

Which part upset you? Was it me pointing out your contradiction? Was it me pointing out that these collectives aren’t actually the charity themselves?

Show me where it hurts.
 
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LOL. Calm down, slugger.

Which part upset you? Was it me pointing out your contradiction? Was it me pointing out that these collectives aren’t actually the charity themselves?

Show me where it hurts.

It's the boring ass game that WolvMike and Donny play at your level. Act too stupid to understand something very obvious just to trainwreck a thread when the mood strikes you.

No one is as dumb as you are pretending to be. Probably time to let it go.
 
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It's the boring ass game that WolvMike and Donny play at your level. Act too stupid to understand something very obvious just to trainwreck a thread when the mood strikes you.

No one is as dumb as you are pretending to be. Probably time to let it go.

LOL. Or…maybe you aren’t as smart as you think you are and your overall point doesn’t make sense.

So…are boosters recruiting or not? Are the collectives the actual charity or not?

You didn’t answer those questions before you short-circuited, tough guy.
 
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LOL. Or…maybe you aren’t as smart as you think you are and your overall point doesn’t make sense.

So…are boosters recruiting or not? Are the collectives the actual charity or not?

You didn’t answer those questions before you short-circuited, tough guy.

You aren't looking to comprehend anything here. Just to respond and keep the trainwreck going. I'm not going to waste the mods time in adding to it when they have to split this idiocy off.

NIL is the devil. These things are a scam or was it that they don't even really work? I get confused.

Either way, you win. Moving on.
 
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You aren't looking to comprehend anything here. Just to respond and keep the trainwreck going. I'm not going to waste the mods time in adding to it when they have to split this idiocy off.

NIL is the devil. These things are a scam or was it that they don't even really work? I get confused.

Either way, you win. Moving on.

So, again…you failed to answer valid questions AND misrepresented my position. Lofted personal attacks on multiple occasions and then play the victim as if you just wanted to have a genuine discussion. FOH.

Move along then.
 
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So, again…you failed to answer valid questions AND misrepresented my position. Lofted personal attacks on multiple occasions and then play the victim as if you just wanted to have a genuine discussion. FOH.

Move along then.

You've moved your position far too many times for me to interpret it correctly at this point and I think my repeated attempts to engage you demonstrate I was originally trying to help, yes.

Once you go full Donny Jr though, it becomes difficult.
 
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You've moved your position far too many times for me to interpret it correctly at this point and I think my repeated attempts to engage you demonstrate I was originally trying to help, yes.

Once you go full Donny Jr though, it becomes difficult.

My position never wavered. Ever.

Ecstatic that the guys are getting their money. Been hoping for that for years.

I don’t like the creepy boosters “inducing” these guys with money.

You initially got offended because I called it creepy and pathetic.
 
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My position never wavered. Ever.

Ecstatic that the guys are getting their money. Been hoping for that for years.

I don’t like the creepy boosters “inducing” these guys with money.

You initially got offended because I called it creepy and pathetic.

Total bullshit. All anyone has to do is go back and read.

You started with the position that they don't work. Simple as that. A few people pointed to Texas A&M as an example that they just might indeed either work very well or at least have the appearance of working which means anyone who wants to recruit at a high level will need to have one.

You then went on to make statements like (I am paraphrasing) "I need more proof than normal people" and "I only work off of complete information" and landed on needing to see a kid explicitly say he made his decision based on NIL money.

Once that happened and the OSU foundation was created by many highly reputable local businesspeople, you switched tracks to the I don't like it so I'll pretend I don't understand how it works position we currently find you still encamped in.

My biggest pet peeve is that it's such a simple business transaction that it makes my teeth hurt when people don't "get it" or when they double down and try to mix morality with legality like we find tonight. It isn't a legit charity because...well because I don't really understand it so it must be creepy/icky/gross.
 
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Total bullshit. All anyone has to do is go back and read.

You started with the position that they don't work. Simple as that. A few people pointed to Texas A&M as an example that they just might indeed either work very well or at least have the appearance of working which means anyone who wants to recruit at a high level will need to have one.

You then went on to make statements like (I am paraphrasing) "I need more proof than normal people" and "I only work off of complete information" and landed on needing to see a kid explicitly say he made his decision based on NIL money.

Once that happened and the OSU foundation was created by many highly reputable local businesspeople, you switched tracks to the I don't like it so I'll pretend I don't understand how it works position we currently find you still encamped in.

My biggest pet peeve is that it's such a simple business transaction that it makes my teeth hurt when people don't "get it" or when they double down and try to mix morality with legality like we find tonight. It isn't a legit charity because...well because I don't really understand it so it must be creepy/icky/gross.

No, that isn’t the position I started with. ANOTHER misrepresentation by you. My position was that it’s creepy and pathetic that these collectives were popping up around the country by boosters and people who just want access to the players. I said they don’t work because nobody has proof that they do. You got mad and said “oh, he only works off complete information” as if not making assumptions about shit I don’t know for sure is a bad thing lol. That was your statement. Not mine. Then a couple guys provided links to stories that were just rumors. Nothing fact based.

You literally just said “or the appearance of working” which means YOU DON’T KNOW for sure. Which is what I said. Why are you being dumb?

After Schottenstein’s collective, I never changed my stance. Why are you lying again? I asked why do fans need to donate and what are they providing that OSU (who brags about making their players the most NIL) can’t.

You keep referring to the collective as a charity but saying I’m the one who doesn’t understand how it works lol. They don’t even refer to themselves as a charity. Why do you?

They are not a charity. They are middlemen to the charities.
 
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From my BarcaLounger, you narrative was more than adequately summarized by Jax. Like it or not, that’s exactly how you were read.

Nope. I’ve been consistent. It’s creepy and pathetic that these guys are inserting themselves into recruiting. We do not know if they work. Even Jax agreed. I believe they don’t. Collectives are not charities. I’ve been consistent saying all of that, like it or not.
 
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