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"LLLLLLL"oyd Carr (officialllllll thread)

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Lloyd Carr - Love him or hate him?

  • Love Him

    Votes: 64 21.1%

  • Hate him

    Votes: 84 27.7%

  • Stupidest poll ever

    Votes: 155 51.2%
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eightpointbuck;1731708; said:
Does this mean the anti RR, pro Les Miles faction just got weaker?
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That's the claim (since the old guard doesn't like Harbaugh either).
I sure hope not, cause I would love to see Les get the nod next at M!c@i#a$.
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He wasn't welcome when he was on top in 07, thanks to the team Saban built. He certainly won't be welcome now.
 
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Ex-Michigan coach Lloyd Carr is 'excited' about retirement

Grosse Pointe Woods -- Former Michigan head football coach Lloyd Carr said he's in a good place just two weeks after announcing he will retire as associate athletic director.
"I'm a young man," said Carr, who will turn 65 today. "I'm doing well, doing great, having fun."
Speaking at Lochmoor Country Club in Grosse Pointe Woods on Thursday, Carr clarified that he's a young man "today" before the important birthday that will also signify that he has about one month before he officially leaves his post on Sept. 1.
Carr coached the 1997 Wolverines to a share of the national championship, and after taking time to make the decision, he's excited to retire.
"I had a couple of months there to really think about it, but I'm really excited," Carr said. "I don't know what the future will hold, but I'm hoping it will be a lot of fun. I know that there's a lot of things out there that I'd still like to do.
"One of those will be to follow Michigan athletics. I know we're in great hands with (athletic director) Dave Brandon and the team he's putting together."
Carr's only plan for retirement thus far is to "sleep in." He said he will try to travel to NFL games to see some of his players compete at the professional level.
Carr coached U-M from 1995-2007 and has been with the program for 30 years, but said he does not plan to return to the football program in any capacity.
"There's things that I miss a lot, but the truth is I've still got quite a few players on the Michigan team that hopefully will finish their careers and finish their degrees," he said. "There's too many young coaches out there that deserve opportunities, and I look forward to following it from afar."
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Former Michigan coach Lloyd Carr was in town on Tuesday night and helped raise a lot of money for a charity during the week of the 109th renewal of the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry.

The function was the Celebrities to Cure Diabetes banquet, organized annually by former Ohio State All-America lineman John Hicks. It was held in the Archie Griffin Ballroom of the Ohio Union.

?We had a huge crowd, and we raised a lot of money ? I believe $90,000-plus ? to help fight diabetes,? Hicks said.

Several former players from both teams attended, including former Michigan safety and Columbus native Marcus Ray and 2006 Heisman Trophy-winning OSU quarterback Troy Smith, who spent a great deal of time posing for photos with attendees next to his trophy.

Carr told the crowd he regretted the Wolverines not going more aggressively after three of the former OSU players on hand: Smith, receiver Anthony Gonzalez and guard T.J. Downing, son of former Michigan star lineman Walt Downing. All three played significant roles in wins over Carr and Michigan in the 2000s.

It had been rumored that former OSU coach Jim Tressel would also attend, but it didn?t happen. Hicks said the plan is for Tressel, who was forced to resign in May 2011 in the wake of an NCAA investigation, to be keynote celebrity next year.
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Lloyd Carr still upset about 1997 national title split with Nebraska

Former Michigan head coach Lloyd Carr still has an ax to grind with Nebraska. To be fair, the issue is not directly with Nebraska, who split a national championship in the 1997 season with Carr’s Wolverines, but with the coaches who voted in the coaches poll at the end of that season.

Michigan completed a perfect season with a victory in the Rose Bowl to win the Associated Press national championship. Meanwhile, Nebraska put together their own undefeated season with a victory over Tennessee in the Orange Bowl to win the coaches poll national championship. The winner of the coaches poll gets to take home to crystal ball trophy as well. In a recent interview, Carr looked back on how he was informed of the split national title.

“I got a phone call the day after Nebraska played Tennessee (in the Orange Bowl), and I had stayed in Los Angeles (after the Rose Bowl) for recruiting, and I got that phone call that said ‘coach you just won the national championship from The Associated Press,’ ” Carr recalled in a television interview, according to MLive.com. “And I knew, based on what we had done (that we would win the AP national title), and I fully expected to win the coaches’ vote.”

Carr, of course, was wrong about that.

“(But) it was explained to me that we had lost and the way the balloting ended up, one coach voted us fourth or two coaches voted us third,” Carr explained. “I didn’t tell the team that, I didn’t want them to dwell on negatives. But I was extremely bothered by it and I still am.”

Having a championship ring likely helps Carr cope with the results of that season, and some may suggest the AP national title is more meaningful than the coaches poll anyway. Still, Carr probably sits at home some days and wonders “What if?” He may want to avoid simulating that match-up on WhatIfSports.com. In ten simulations between the 1997 Michigan and Nebraska teams on a neutral field, Nebraska won six times.

Entire article: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...bout-1997-national-title-split-with-nebraska/

In case you had any lingering doubts, YES, HE"S STILL A "DICK".
 
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“(But) it was explained to me that we had lost and the way the balloting ended up, one coach voted us fourth or two coaches voted us third,” Carr explained.
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Somewhere (on Buckeye Planet) I saw that this wouldn't have changed the outcome. Nebraska got more 1st place votes, and all 2nd place votes in the ballots that had Michigan number 1.
Nebraska got 1,520 points, 32 first place votes (800 points). The remaining 720 points must have come from 30 second place votes.
Michigan got 30 first place votes (750 points). Even if they got 32 second place points (768), that gives them 1,518. That's not enough to pass Nebraska.
Michigan only got 1,516, which means that one coach voted them fourth, or two coaches voted them third. But that sounds like Joe Paterno whining that the Big Ten coaches didn't "support him" in 1994 - it doesn't change the end result.

Why doesn't Nebraska get annoyed that Michigan "stole" their AP championship? Because Michigan was #1 going into the bowl games? Stupid system. Stupid stupid stupid.
 
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BayBuck said:
December 8, 2011?
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In the Rose Bowl stadium, yes. But in The Rose Bowl? the cougars have only been there four times; 1915, 1931, 1997 and 2003.

The point being that Michigan barely beat the Indiana of the PAC 8/10/12 while Nebraska was beating Tennessee. I can see why some writers would look at the teams involved and vote against the weasels.
 
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cincibuck said:
In the Rose Bowl stadium, yes. But in The Rose Bowl? the cougars have only been there four times; 1915, 1931, 1997 and 2003.

The point being that Michigan barely beat the Indiana of the PAC 8/10/12 while Nebraska was beating Tennessee. I can see why some writers would look at the teams involved and vote against the weasels.
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I think both teams had legitimate arguments for and against. Not to defend the weasels, mind you.
 
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Woody1968 said:
I think both teams had legitimate arguments for and against. Not to defend the weasels, mind you.
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Which is why I don't think anyone can say Michigan got snubbed. "Snubbed" means that Michigan SHOULD have been #1. But if enough people can argue (legitimately) for Nebraska, then I don't think they can fairly say "snubbed".
 
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