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Lebron James (Los Angeles Lakers)

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jlb1705 said:
Jesus Christ, Kevin Garnett gets served up to Boston for half the roster of the what was the worst team in the league, and suddenly everybody thinks that true superstar sidekicks just fall out of the [censored]ing sky for everybody. When your trading chips are Damon Jones and Donyell Marshall, you get guys like Mo Williams in return if you're lucky. If LeBron would have been content to tank the last couple years like all his other free agent suitors did, maybe things would have turned out differently.

That really gets at the most disingenuous aspect of this whole episode. He spent the past three years demanding that the Cavs exhaust every bit of financial and roster flexibility at their disposal, and then when he becomes a free agent he cites as an attribute in both himself and his new team qualities that he would not allow to exist in his relationship with his old team.

It's like wanting for the longest time to put it in your girlfriend's butt, but she says she doesn't want to. Then she leaves your ass for the pool boy and tells you she likes the way he [censored]s her up the ass like you never would. GTFO.
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My response was in response to somebody basically saying he should have stayed because now they'll surround him with better players.

Try harder and this doesn't happen.
 
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Chicago sports talk was speculating that Jordan may have urged LBJ to go to Miami out of spite towards the Bulls organization. Upon thinking about it, I think Michael may have been far more Machiavellian than the radio guys gave him credit for if it's true that he was pushing James to Miami

Jordan may have whispered in his ear and pushed him in a direction that's destroyed his brand while landing him in the one destination where he--no matter how many rings he wins--will never be able to challenge Jordan's legacy as greatest ever.
 
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buckeyesin07;1728452; said:
Gasol's a top 10 player?
Shaq and Wade both were top 10 players in '06?
Drexler was a top 10 player when with the Rockets, as opposed to when with Portland?
:lol:

You really should do yourself a favor and not respond next time.
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I'm not going to read the 40-plus pages of angst to see how this was responded to, but those statements are hardly laughable, and not as easily dismissed as you attempted by using a silly emoticon and saying that the other poster shouldn't have responded.

2006 - Shaq was 1st team all-NBA, Wade was 2nd team.

2009 & 2010 - Gasol was 3rd team, and many would consider him a better all-around player than either Nowitzki or Stoudemire, who made 2nd team.

1994 & 1995 - Drexler started the All-Star game in 1994, and was 3rd team all-NBA in 1995 with the Rockets.

So for each of those 5 years, I'd say that an opinion that the NBA Champion had 2 of the top 10 players in the league was certainly not worth derision.
 
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SI/CNN

LeBron hardly a king for taking the easy way out with star-laden Heat


GREENWICH, Conn., July 8, 1990 -- Michael Jordan announced on national television he's leaving Chicago to join the Detroit Pistons. Jordan said it was tough to bolt Chicago, where he was the most popular athlete in many years, because he thinks he has a better chance to win a championship if he plays with Pistons star Isiah Thomas. Jordan said by playing together, he and Thomas "won't have the pressure of going out and scoring 30 every night."
That would have sounded absurd, right? Well, it is no more absurd than what LeBron James is doing. Jordan was 27 years old in 1990, slightly older than James is now. He had never been to the NBA Finals. He had been beaten up by the Celtics and Pistons for years. He doubted his supporting cast was good enough.
But he never doubted himself.

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BuckeyeNation27;1729300; said:
My response was in response to somebody basically saying he should have stayed because now they'll surround him with better players.

Try harder and this doesn't happen.
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Correct. And I was 100% dead on. Thanks.

LeBron commits to the Cavs for 5 years, and he gets the side-kick he needs. 2-3 years left on a deal isn't enough for another super-star to take on a 5 year deal and possibly be left holding the bag when he leaves. The Cavs spent the first 4 years re-working the roster as much as possible under Gund and Paxson, and then Ferry and Gilbert over-hauled some things and made it a solid core. In next year they could have put together something special.

LeBron would rather be Scottie Piipen. More power to him. Enjoy South Beach and the "role player" label you've forver adopted.
 
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Plaschke...harsh

LA Times

LeBron James looks neither royal nor loyal


On an ESPN show, the King shows up a supportive community.

By Bill Plaschke
July 8, 2010 | 11:27 p.m.


LeBron James is the King, all right.

The King of Crass. The King of Callous. The King of Cowardice.

What kind of man arranges and stars in a nationally televised infomercial during which he kicks his hometown to the curb? What kind of man summons a crowd of millions to watch him break up with a city that has loved and supported him for 25 years?

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ORD_Buckeye;1729301; said:
Chicago sports talk was speculating that Jordan may have urged LBJ to go to Miami out of spite towards the Bulls organization. Upon thinking about it, I think Michael may have been far more Machiavellian than the radio guys gave him credit for if it's true that he was pushing James to Miami

Jordan may have whispered in his ear and pushed him in a direction that's destroyed his brand while landing him in the one destination where he--no matter how many rings he wins--will never be able to challenge Jordan's legacy as greatest ever.
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LeBron just turned the Bulls and Cavs to be a sidekick. There is nothing Jordan-esque about him. JA Adande said LeBron and his team didn't like the Bulls pitch for 2 reasons:

1. It compared LeBron to MJ and meeting/exceeding his success
2. They wanted LeBron the player...not his boys

Apparently LeBron hated both.

Does this surprise anyone now. He has cemented forever he never was, is, or will be MJ. He doesn't have the same competitive will/drive. Michael would have loved to smash Wade and Bosh, not egt in line to join them. I bet Kobe is licking his chops right now, not sulking in some room about Miami landing 3 all-stars.
 
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