King bumps his gums on the pickle

[Meyer]

I think the Browns need to draft more Buckeyes. Need to revamp the locker room with winners. All we have to do is offer up a 5th rounder for Troy Smith and we can have him. I see these turds like Derek Anderson, Feeley and Seneca Wallace getting picked up before Troy even gets anything. WTF?

Put the heisman winner on our team, I mean winners like Terrell Suggs and Ray Lewis said he should start. Who cares if Flacco was drafted in the first round after Troy was drafted. He won the dang job.

Didn't the thing under your name say "don't bring Troy to Cleveland" as of yesterday?

I could be wrong.

 

[hatehineygate]

The main thing I am looking for is QB, CB, WR/RB, S. I have a feeling this sock full of puddin Holmgren is gonna trade down and take a corner. I think it would serve us well to trade down, unless Clausen falls to 7, and pick up Dez Bryant. Come back around in the 2nd with Nate Allen and snap up some more DB and corner help in the third.

 

[Buckeneye]

unless Clausen falls to 7

Uh no....

and pick up Dez Bryant.

And...hell no.

 

[hatehineygate]

Uh no....



And...hell no.

So are you going to give an example or just come in here making ridiculous, know it all statements?

 

[Buckeye86]

So are you going to give an example or just come in here making ridiculous, know it all statements?

you learned to talk to the talk fast, young grasshopper, but why don't you start by defending why you think Clausen and Bryant would be good picks, and then everyone else can explain why that would be awful

 

[Bleed S & G]

but why don't you start by defending why you think Clausen and Bryant would be good picks, and then everyone else can explain why that would be awful

 

[hatehineygate]

It pretty simple, there are two real QBs this year and Bradford will be gone. Missing out on Clausen means we go one full season with Delhomme at QB and we throw our hat into the Ryan Mallett contest. There will be like 4-5 teams that want Mallett and if we dont get him that is two years with Delhomme at QB and another crap class of QBs. Clausen went 28/4 in a pro style offense with out a real running game or line. He played hurt all year and missed Rudolph or Floyd throughout the year. I dont know this for a fact, but Kiper was saying Clausen really only threw 2 INTs that were on him. When is the last time a JR went 28/4?

Dez Bryant after trading back only because we are good at OL/DL and no one else in that range really fills a need. Bryant and Tate are better than the next teir of WRs and we need WR help. Not sold on any of the RBs and I am not a fan of taking them in the first.

 

[Bleed S & G]

It pretty simple, there are two real QBs this year and Bradford will be gone. Missing out on Clausen means we go one full season with Delhomme at QB

So you think Clausen will come in and start in his first year?

 

[LitlBuck]

Didn't the thing under your name say "don't bring Troy to Cleveland" as of yesterday?

I could be wrong.

He would like to forget about that right now and does not want to talk about it. He wants to see how many red things he can run up.

He has also not thinking about next year right now because he forgot about some guy named Jake locker.

 

[jwinslow]

Prove to me how wrong I was, given that list of corners tell me who you would have felt comfortable with. So far the only person that even prensents any argument is JWinslow, I disagree with it, but no one else has brought anything forward that would say I was wrong.

Plenty of people said you were wrong. My CB lists were about the only time you could be bothered to substantiate your arguments with anything more than hyperbole.

Guys like D Hall are not worth it in my mind. Its like saying Underwood was worth a scholly while here even though he was only on the team for like two years, but he did well after he went to another school.

That example makes no sense. Underwood ended up at OSU and was very meager. He went to another school and did alright but hardly lit it up.

DeAngelo was a falcon for 4 years, during which time he was one of the better corners in the game.

After Vick's implosion, the babysitters were gone, no longer able to keep high maintenance players like Hall in play.

He never had that same framework again and he has gone downhill fast as a result. They knew when drafting guys like Vick & Hall that there was a lot of babysitting to be done.

There are concerns about maturity with Dez Bryant. The guys on NFLN were talking about the importance of landing in a structured environment.

That's a pretty bad analogy. For one, Hall made the Pro Bowl and had his best years with the Falcons. Two, when Underwood transferred, all we got was an extra schollie. When the Falcons traded Hall, they got 2 picks in return (2nd and 5th).

Exactly, and he was a premium free agent. Underwood was not desirable as a transfer nor as a NFL prospect shortly after that.

 

[hatehineygate]

So you think Clausen will come in and start in his first year?

If he is taken at 7 at some point he is going to start.

He would like to forget about that right now and does not want to talk about it. He wants to see how many red things he can run up.

He has also not thinking about next year right now because he forgot about some guy named Jake locker.

Not sure what your damage is, but Jake Locker is a project. He wont play right away and if he does it will be bad. Locker did the right thing coming back to school for a year. Take a look at his completion %, accuracy is the most important thing for an NFL QB, Locker would take time getting it.
Maybe you feel comfortable with the Borwns drafting a QB that would take a few years to develope, but I dont.

 

[jwinslow]

These posts have a kingly nature to them.

When is the last time a JR went 28/4?

Here's another suggestion, if you want to make an argument, then you do the research to back it up. Don't ask us to do your legwork to prove or disprove your point.

Seriously bro, it took me about 30 seconds to find out that the much maligned Tebow went 30/4 as a junior.
As a soph, Russell Wilson went 17/1 while missing 3 games, which projects to 22/1.4 INT over a 13 game schedule.
07 Dixon went 20/4 before shredding his knee. He was a senior, but given how raw his ability is, I'd say he's behind Clausen in experience & maturation as a passer.

Clausen had a good season, but you will be greatly disappointed if you're expecting him to avoid mistakes like that at the next level.

 

[hatehineygate]

Plenty of people said you were wrong. My CB lists were about the only time you could be bothered to substantiate your arguments with anything more than hyperbole.
That example makes no sense. Underwood ended up at OSU and was very meager. He went to another school and did alright but hardly lit it up.

DeAngelo was a falcon for 4 years, during which time he was one of the better corners in the game.

After Vick's implosion, the babysitters were gone, no longer able to keep high maintenance players like Hall in play.

He never had that same framework again and he has gone downhill fast as a result. They knew when drafting guys like Vick & Hall that there was a lot of babysitting to be done.

There are concerns about maturity with Dez Bryant. The guys on NFLN were talking about the importance of landing in a structured environment.Exactly, and he was a premium free agent. Underwood was not desirable as a transfer nor as a NFL prospect shortly after that.

Honestly?

From the Falcons perspective do you think they would take DHall in the top 10 again? I dont care about baby sitters or what he did with another team, anything.

Was he worth it over the 4 years, at that rate for the Falcons.

 

[hatehineygate]

Here's another suggestion, if you want to make an argument, then you do the research to back it up. Don't ask us to do your legwork to prove or disprove your point.

Seriously bro, it took me about 30 seconds to find out that the much maligned Tebow went 30/4.

That is not a pro style offense hack, Florida runs a gimmick offense and you should know that before you go bumping your gums. You keep going back and adding names to that post while not understanding that all of those guys play in the spread.

And while you are adding that and not reading this. I am not here to do your leg work. If you are going to tell me that I cant expect Clausen to not make mistakes,

why dont you show me where I said he wasnt. I am not here to do your leg work. If you are going to have an argument, do your own digging.

 

[jwinslow]

That is not a pro style offense hack, Florida runs a gimmick offense and you should know that before you go bumping your gums. You keep going back and adding names to that post while not understanding that all of those guys play in the spread.

I'm a random poster on a message board, Mr. Superstar, but thanks for calling me a hack Glad to see the hostility and insults are flowing again, all because you refused to do the legwork behind how rare those numbers were from Clausen.

Let me know how many screen passes Clausen throws to the tight end next year.


p.s. I especially appreciated the earlier hypocrisy of calling someone else out for not backing up their arguments. That was rich after the last 24 hours.