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Somebody on the shag had a pretty good analysis of why the SEC might already have a bit of buyer's remorse with aggy and want to see them knocked down a peg. Long story short: aggy was supposed to provide some academic cred while being a doormat on the field. They're doing the opposite.

for that matter, sec is a huge player in this dime-store melodrama, and we don't know what the sec wants.
we do know that the ags aren't playing the role they were hired to play.
they were supposed to deliver the state to them and be another soft spot on the schedule for the league leaders.
and they and mizzou (along with vandy and fla, of course) were supposed to provide instant academic credibility.

they have opened the state for the sec, but they are taking too many of the cherries for themselves, and they have failed miserably in the doormat role, embarrassing the pristine tide last season and endangering the sec/espn lockhold on the college game.
moreover, they are rushing the school pell mell into the on-line diploma mill scenario and are thumbing their noses at the aau.

if that's not enough, they are providing a constant drumbeat of bozo moments that keep them in clown hats and floppy shoes.
the staid old, aristocratic white hairs who run that league can't be happy with their acquisition.
we don't have any idea at present what they are saying and doing behind the curtain.
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Mandel: "Breaking down perception of Johnny Manziel"

To begin with, let's note a few key differences between the players. Manziel is the reigning Heisman Trophy winner. People love watching him play, and most had never even heard of him a year earlier. On the other hand, as of December 2010, Pryor was widely viewed as an underachieving, overrated former No. 1 recruit (despite going 31-4 as starter). He was not universally embraced by his own team's fan base, much less a national audience. Plus he played for Ohio State, one of America's favorite programs to loathe.
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Im not one that sides with Mandel (nor do I prefer his articles) but he nailed this write up. He was open and candid on the race difference, the school difference, the timing, etc.
 
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OhioState001;2361178; said:
I didn't realize Pryor was viewed as "widely overrated".
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Or permanently labeled as a 'thug'.

I wonder if Stewie has the self awareness to admit that many of the negative perceptions of Pryor, and in his words Ohio State, are directly related to how he, and others like him portray the aforementioned.
 
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Muck;2361203; said:
Or permanently labeled as a 'thug'.

I wonder if Stewie has the self awareness to admit that many of the negative perceptions of Pryor, and in his words Ohio State, are directly related to how he, and others like him portray the aforementioned.
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Thug? No, he wasn't anything close to being a thug. Self-entitled, immature, self-destructive, prima donna, program jeapordizing headcase..?

Which reminds me of a certain agtard qb who is not getting near the universal condemnation that Pryor recieved.
 
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OhioState001;2361178; said:
I didn't realize Pryor was viewed as "widely overrated".
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With all the hype, I think people expected Vince Young II sooner than later. Strictly as a player he was obviously very good, if not great and it's silly to describe him as underachieving and overrated. He was a 2 time BCS bowl MVP after 3 years in the program. If anything I think he was underrated.

I'm glad, though, that someone mentioned the past OSU violations in relation this because I don't feel like A&M or Manziel is getting nearly as much crap as OSU did in '11.
 
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OHSportsFan;2361180; said:
People definitely don't realize how good he was, imo.
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Agreed. 31-4 mostly says all you need to say. A couple big bowl wins and beating tsun by a combined 80 points in 3 games says a little more.

When you look back at those teams you are not looking at some of the most talented Buckeye teams, either. Pryor covered up a lot of weaknesses on those teams and led them to a lot of wins. Even Coach Meyer said he didn't realize how good Pryor until he studied film of those teams.
 
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1926Buckeyes said:
With all the hype, I think people expected Vince Young II sooner than later. Strictly as a player he was obviously very good, if not great and it's silly to describe him as underachieving and overrated. He was a 2 time BCS bowl MVP after 3 years in the program. If anything I think he was underrated.

I'm glad, though, that someone mentioned the past OSU violations in relation this because I don't feel like A&M or Manziel is getting nearly as much crap as OSU did in '11.
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Really? I feel like Manziel is getting MORE bad press than Ohio State did. Right now he's getting more bad press than a cheater named A Rod and a murderer named Hernandez.
 
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