Jim Tressel (National Champion, ex-President, Youngstown State University, CFB HOF)

[Zurp]

On that note, it's pissing me off something fierce that Bama or Texas is going to match our 14 win season :/ (and that Boise has a chance to also)

Meh - you had to know it was coming.

 

[generaladm]

This is Matt Zemeck's portion of cfn's Rose Bowl Instant Analysis. I think it's a rather honest appraisal of JT's legacy, as it stands now. I don't agree with all of it, but it's one of the better "national" articles I've read lately.

Matt Zemek

1) Maybe, just maybe, we can put the Jim Tressel bashing to bed. Forever.

No coach with more success has been bagged on throughout the past nine seasons than Mister Sweater Vest. You can argue with his choices at times, and you can say that his quarterback coaching failed to hit the mark for portions of the 2009 season. But with the sole exceptions of Pete Carroll and Bob Stoops, no man won more conference titles in the just-ended decade than Tressel, a model of consistency each and every year.

Why has that consistency emerged, you might ask? Well, for one thing, Tressel ? like any successful coach ? is a first-rate leader who knows his personnel and owns an acute feel for the personality of his ballclub. Ohio State?s main strength ? in almost every season (2006 would be an exception) ? is its combination of defense and kicking, and so it has been both sound and wise for Tressel to lean on those pillars in the crucible of gameday competition. The TresselBall formula has so often been assailed in recent years, and while the pigskin portraits created by Ohio State teams have not been aesthetically pleasing, they?ve regularly produced Big Ten championships and BCS bowls.

And now, that TresselBall recipe has cooked up a strong and convincing Rose Bowl win that validated Mr. Sweater Vest?s football philosophy.

Ohio State?s field goal kicking produced 12 points while Oregon?s Morgan Flint ? not trusted by a nervous Chip Kelly in the first three quarters ? unsurprisingly missed his crucial late kick. The Bucks? defense thoroughly contained Oregon?s offense, holding a Pac-10 juggernaut ? the same one that threw down 47 points against USC, 44 against Arizona, and 37 against Oregon State ? to a mere 17 points. Sure, some of the Ducks? miscues were unforced, but that does nothing to diminish the intelligence of the Tressel Way and its compatibility with this Ohio State program in its current structure and form.

Terrelle Pryor did play much better in this game, and the Buckeyes were certainly more aggressive with No. 2 than they had been in the regular season, but let?s not think that Tressel re-invented the wheel on the first day of 2010. Short passing and ? in the fourth quarter ? a repeated use of a simple play, a designed rollout keeper, were enough to give Pryor the safety zone he needed as a signal caller. This wasn?t a pyrotechnic display from the Bucks against the Ducks. OSU scored just two touchdowns and still struggled in the red zone. Pryor put a number of balls up for grabs, and was bailed out by tight end Jake Ballard on a crucial catch in the fourth quarter. Nevertheless, because Ohio State limited its mistakes while the nervous and sloppy Ducks repeatedly misfired, the old-school Big Ten coach outschemed and outmaneuvered the guru of the spread option and an up-tempo attack that got slowed down in Pasadena.

The body of work attached to Jim Tressel?s name is formidable and prodigious, a grand portfolio that 110 FBS programs would kill for. As has been said so many times over the past few years, the coaches that deserve to be ripped ? eviscerated and castigated ? are the coaches at programs who can never even get to a BCS bowl or win a single conference title. Tressel ? like Bob Stoops, another high-level winner of the first order ? is not the kind of cat who should be clawed at by the Fourth Estate. Maybe this defining and oh-so-sweet triumph will keep the vultures away from Columbus for a very long time to come.

2) There?s no need to shy from it. There?s no point in trying to deny it any longer: While many bowl games shouldn't be seen as definitive measurements of a conference, the 2010 Rose Bowl most certainly was a referendum on the Pac-10, and the results didn?t measure up for West Coast football advocates.

Oregon ? disjointed, sweaty-palmed and just plain pee-in-the-pants nervous in its first BCS bowl game, a sharp contrast to an Ohio State crew that regularly plays in these kinds of environments ? failed to deliver the goods. The Ducks got overpowered at times, and Jeremiah Masoli was much more like the uncertain field general last seen in early September. Chip Kelly lost his customary boldness when he didn?t go for a first down on 4th and 1 late in the fourth quarter. A stack of silly penalties prolonged multiple Ohio State drives, and LeGarrette Blount lost focus on the fumble that towered over every other snap in the shadows of the San Gabriel Mountains. In the Pac-10, this UO offense was a juggernaut, but against the beef and brawn of the Bucks, Oregon flinched.

It?s harsh, and it?s probably not entirely fair to say so, but it?s still USC and the nine dwarfs out West? at least when it comes to main-event January battles when all the cameras in the Western Hemisphere are trained on one solitary gridiron. This game should make people appreciate just how impressive Pete Carroll?s New Year?s Day accomplishments have been over the past several years. Meanwhile, the Pac-10 cannot be considered the best conference in college football in 2009.

Scout.com: Instant Analysis - OSU & Pryor Win The Rose

 

[BuckeyePride]

This is Matt Zemeck's portion of cfn's Rose Bowl Instant Analysis. I think it's a rather honest appraisal of JT's legacy, as it stands now. I don't agree with all of it, but it's one of the better "national" articles I've read lately.



Scout.com: Instant Analysis - OSU & Pryor Win The Rose

One big win and some people started changing their tone. I don't think the man they are writting about has changed when he lost or won. Bit strange. I thought we played very well last year against Texas as well. Outcome was different. Sometimes its up to what other person or team does and not what you or your team does.

I still look at the coach same way I did on Dec 31, 2009. With great respect. Lucky to have him as a head coach of The Ohio State football.

 

[BUCKYLE]

Thank you for putting up with our shit.

 

[BUCKYLE]

Jim Tressel:
9 Seasons
94-21 (.817) Overall
59-13 vs. Big Ten
8-1 vs. scUM
6 Big Ten Titles (5 straight)
1 National Title (3 NCG Appearances)
7 BCS Bowls (4 Wins)
5 Bowl Wins
7 Ten win seasons
7 Top Ten finishes (AP)
6* Top Five finishes (AP/Coaches)

Ladies and gents, we are a spoiled, spoiled fanbase. For all the frustration we feel at times...there's no arguing with those results. Just trust the vest. If you would have showed me these numbers in January 2001 and said this is what we were in store for, I would have soiled myself.

* = assuming top 5 finish this season, which appears very likely.

You could've just said "8-1 vs. scUM" and I'd have soiled everything in a three county area.

 

[muffler dragon]

I was thinking about this tonight while watching the Orange Bowl.

In 2002, JT wins the National Championship. Ferentz wins the Big Ten COTY award.
In 2009, JT wins the Rose Bowl. Ferentz wins the Big Ten COTY award.

What the hell is up with the Big Ten media?

I realize we can say this about almost every other year of Tressel's tenure, but seriously, what's the guy gotta do to win the COTY award in the Big Ten. He's the best coach in the Big Ten over this past decade bar none.

The Orange Bowl, according to the announcers, was the first big time bowl win since 1959 for Iowa. I have no idea if that's correct or not. However, I do know that Ferentz has not won with the consistency nor at the level that Tressel has.

I just don't get it.

 

[ScriptOhio]

I'm sure if given a choice Jim Tressel (aka Mr. Sweatervest) will take the Big 10 championship over the COTY everytime. Yes, he could and should have won both. However, I've said it before (below) and I'll say it again; "Kirk Ferentz seems to consistantly get more from less talent than anyone else in the Big 10."

Yes they are. And I really think Kirk Ferentz is doing an outstanding job there too. He seems to consistantly get more from less talent than anyone else in the Big 10. I'm pretty sure that Iowa doesn't have that many "top 100 division 1A football prospects" so he has been working primarily with everyone else's leftovers (i.e. he only the gets out of state players from a state (like Ohio) that the major school in that state (like Ohio State) doesn't offer a scholarship to, etc.)

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[muffler dragon]

I'm sure if given a choice Jim Tressel (aka Mr. Sweatervest) will take the Big 10 championship over the COTY everytime. Yes, he could and should have won both.

FWIW, I wasn't bringing it up as an either/or situation.

However, I've said it before (below) and I'll say it again; "Kirk Ferentz seems to consistantly get more from less talent than anyone else in the Big 10."

To me, Kirk is a good coach; however, I wouldn't say anything about consistency. 3 poor years to start, 3 years of 10 win seasons, 3 years of average, 2 years of 9-11 wins. It's a roller coaster of a ride on an 81-55 overall record at Iowa.

Kirk's Record
1999: 1-10
2000: 3-9
2001: 7-5 Alamo Bowl (W)
2002: 10-2 Orange Bowl (L)
2003: 10-3 Outback Bowl (W)
2004: 10-2 Capital One Bowl (W)
2005: 7-5 Outback Bowl (L)
2006: 6-7 Alamo Bowl (L)
2007: 6-6
2008: 9-4 Outback Bowl (W)
2009: 11-2 Orange Bowl (W)

In essence, he's been rewarded with a COTY award two out of the four years that he's had double digit wins. Whereas, Jim Tressel has had SEVEN double digit win years, and he's yet to receive the award. It's bopkess.

 

[gracelhink]

FWIW, I wasn't bringing it up as an either/or situation.



To me, Kirk is a good coach; however, I wouldn't say anything about consistency. 3 poor years to start, 3 years of 10 win seasons, 3 years of average, 2 years of 9-11 wins. It's a roller coaster of a ride on an 81-55 overall record at Iowa.

Kirk's Record
1999: 1-10
2000: 3-9
2001: 7-5 Alamo Bowl (W)
2002: 10-2 Orange Bowl (L)
2003: 10-3 Outback Bowl (W)
2004: 10-2 Capital One Bowl (W)
2005: 7-5 Outback Bowl (L)
2006: 6-7 Alamo Bowl (L)
2007: 6-6
2008: 9-4 Outback Bowl (W)
2009: 11-2 Orange Bowl (W)

In essence, he's been rewarded with a COTY award two out of the four years that he's had double digit wins. Whereas, Jim Tressel has had SEVEN double digit win years, and he's yet to receive the award. It's bopkess.

Agree that Ferentz is a great coach, who does not receive much recognition outside of the midwest and Big Ten.
What is this with the Iowa W's in the 2003 Outback, 2004 Cap One, and 2008 Outback bowls?
I thought I remembered hearing Fox tv analysts say last night that Iowa had not won a bowl game since 1959.

I may have misunderstood but it seems like Tressell and tOSU are not the only ones lacking in media respect.

 

[leroyjenkins]

What is this with the Iowa W's in the 2003 Outback, 2004 Cap One, and 2008 Outback bowls?
I thought I remembered hearing Fox tv analysts say last night that Iowa had not won a bowl game since 1959.

They said "big time bowl", which probably means one of the now BCS bowls.

 

[sandgk]

What is this with the Iowa W's in the 2003 Outback, 2004 Cap One, and 2008 Outback bowls?
I thought I remembered hearing Fox tv analysts say last night that Iowa had not won a bowl game since 1959.

Well remember, they also claimed that one of the Iowa RBs was 5-9 and 205 yards.

 

[gracelhink]

They said "big time bowl", which probably means one of the now BCS bowls.

The actual quote was-- Stockton said Iowa hasn't won a BCS-type bowl since the 1991 Rose Bowl. He then miscorrected himself, saying Iowa hasn't won a bowl game since the 1959 Rose Bowl.

 

[Buckskin86]

Tressel's philosophy on early-entry players

In the wake of Gibson's leaving and Heyward and Chekwa staying yesterday, I thought this was a very interesting quote from Jim Tressel, during Rose Bowl interviews last week.

On the subject of juniors leaving or staying:


"I assume they all want to come back, because I don?t know why you?d ever want to leave college.

"It?s funny, the ones who left early all come back and said, `Ooh, I don?t know what I did,' other than they like the money, which is real.

"I don?t get involved in an opinion because I have a job, and for a guy who makes room and board, for me to say, `Oh no no, stick around with me so I can make money and you can be broke still?' I don?t ever do that.

"But I just assume they're all going to stick around. We talk about it and play devil?s advocate a little bit. But I?ve never told a guy, `Hey don?t (go).' I don?t think that would be fair."


I imagine his players hear that and think the same thing I do -- the guy is being very honest and very real. I loved the "stick around with me so I can make money and you can be broke still..."

How many coaches counsel players with the players' best interests first and foremost in mind? Probably not all of them.

Tressel's philosophy on early-entry players (Blogging the Buckeyes)

 

[Dryden]

Found this as the third link in Google News searching "Jim Tressel." Interesting byline ...

Three yards and a cloud of win - Uweekly - Columbus, OH

Three yards and a cloud of win
By VR Bryant

It's no secret at this point that Jim Tressel is the messiah of modern football conservatism. But just because Captain Coy isn't liable to blow the doors off anyone any time soon with his buttoned-up game plan, doesn't mean that he can't make you look stupid, which is basically what happened this past New Year's Day in Pasadena.

Cont'd ...

 

[sandgk]

Dryden - that other article VR Bryant refers to is this one ... about Terrelle Pryor, I've put that into his thread.