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J.T. Barrett's debut performance is going to scare a lot of kids off.
And Danny Clark is waiting in the wings....
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Serious.
Notabe debut performances from Buckeye QB's:
Troy Smith: 12/24 for 161 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT; 11 rushes for 58 yards
Terrelle Pryor: 10/16 for 139 yards, 4 TD, 1 INT; 11 rushes for 66 yards
Braxton Miller: 5/13 for 83 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT; 17 rushes for 83 yards
J.T. Barrett: 12/15 for 226 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT; 9 rushes for 50 yards
Barrett's debut was at least as good as the rest, perhaps better. It's pretty clear that Barrett isn't just some guy who's playing because Braxton is hurt. Barrett is the QB of the future, and Danny Clark will come in as his understudy. I'm not sure how many 2016 QB's want to get lost in that shuffle.
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My apologies. I thought you meant it the opposite way, as if the poor offensive showing JT's fault and was going to scare kids off.
I agree. And although he may not be the "passer" Torrance Gibson may scare off even more.
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ShowMeBuck
You know what? Chicken butt.
Hasn't Bama landed back to back QB studs and other schools (USC?) done the same in the past? How about aTm and their QB recruiting lately? I honestly thought that it would make Urb and our system stand out that we can plug another guy in and have success. I guess it's all the way you look at it if you are a recruit. Bama also has had years of taking multiple stud RBs. Seems like we should benefit from QB success and the true studs shouldn't be scared by the competition.
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maximumblitz
Buckeye Samurai of Big League Blitzkreig
I think Schlichter threw 4 interceptions his first game?
http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/08/remembering_through_video_two.html
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Agreed, top teams constantly bring in top QBs regardless if one is already in place. Besides the teams you've named, FSU has 3 QBs for 2015 and had 1 for 2014 for example. If a kid is scared of competition, isn't that a kid that UrbAn and Co. Wouldn't want anyway? If he's scared of competition now, it only gets stronger when he hits a college campus. Regardless if JT still has a good season, I see the staff still pursuing high ranked QB recruits, and the best will play. A lot of time left until his NSD and still a lot of options available.
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The unique variable here being Danny Clark, who is already committed for the class of 2017. If Clark weren't already committed, then a 2016 prospect would be looking at a three-year window to start. Now it looks probable (or at least reasonably likely) that the baton will pass directly from Barrett to Clark, with the kids in the 2014-2016 classes being relegated to back-up roles.
In other words, as things stand currently, a 2016 QB prospect would have to beat out an established starter (Barrett) and the "next big thing" (Clark). Some kids won't be up for that kind of challenge.
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With all due respect to Clark, why is he being so hyped up? He's still a football player at QB like Guarantano, Haskins, Henry, etc. I don't think anything should be assumed when it comes to a game as violent as football. I have no problem with Clark earning his spot like any other player, but IMO, no 2016,QB should be concerned with a kid coming to OSU after them. For all we know, Clark is another Bauserman or Zwick, I'm hoping he is the next big thing. But let's not go rushing into assuming he is, based on little knowledge of his game. Stepping up to the next level, all best are off, and you now must know how to read more complex defenses, make quicker decisions and know a much bigger playbook. We will know none of this until Clark steps on campus, and by then other guys may be further ahead.
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TampaBuckeyes
Assistant Coach
Few schools land back to back QB studs. Bama certainly isn't one of them. Don't assume because they have had success on the field, that they have landed back to back QB studs. They don't actually recruit very well at all at QB. On the other hand they land back to back DEs, DTs, WRs, OL, LBers, Safties, CBs and RBs. Those are all positions that can 'plug-n-play'. They know they can compete for a spot based on athleticism. QB isn't one of them. QB is about being the leader, and it is hard to displace an established QB. You aren't given many chances. Why do you think Manziel and Winston both sat behind senior QBs for a year while both teams struggled? The senior may not have been as talented, but they were the leader of the team. That is why the best schools hope to land an elite QB every other year. It also often takes 2 years as a starter to have learned enough to get a high NFL draft pick (not always), but QB is usually a spot where you see the most improvement after becoming a starter. So like Gibson in the 2015 class might be less inclined, as he would sit for 3 years. This shouldn't stop any of the 2016 recruits, as they would only have to sit 2 years before a chance to challenge for the open starting role, and then 2 years to start. The 2017 commits should never affect what a 2016 recruit does.
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buckeyesin07
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
I don't know if recruits are willing to make that kind of a leap based on one game. I'd say they'd let a good chunk of the season, if not the whole season, play out before reaching that conclusion.
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We are going to get a stud in '16 at QB, just depends who (probably Haskins imo). And even if it is Haskins or Guarantamo, either will be ranked in the same ballpark as Clark, so I see a competition down the road regardless.
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