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Is this the future of college football?

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SmoovP;1919042; said:
For the record, the NCAA budget for 2010-2011 was/is $757 million dollars - $580 million (or, nearly 77%) of it was distributed back to schools and conferences.

$23 million (3%) was spent on youth service programs. $89 million (12%) was spent on Membership Programs and Services. $30 million (4%) was spent on Administration Services - salaries and operating expenses. $114 million (19%) was spent on Member Schools and Conference expenses.

The total operating expense was $724 million spent out of $757 million collected - or, 95.64% - with a little over 4% kept back for contingencies and reserves.
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You need a new calculator

77% + 3% +12% + 4% + 19% = 115%
Plus the 4% left over is 119%

That NCAA really tries hard, man. They give you 119%
 
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SmoovP;1919023; said:
If I were handing them out, this would get a GPA.

Blaming 'the journalists' for what is going on is simply a 'kill the messenger' justification/rationalization.

And that's as lame as it gets.

How about we demand that our institutions play by the rules and punish them harshly when they don't?
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Thump's original point isn't trying to turn attention from the school(s) to blaming the media. He noticed a trend among high profile programs, championships, and some journalist (usually a local guy, but not always (New York Times)) being the catalyst for a NCAA investigation.

If you don't believe that happens you're not paying attention.

As for your final sentence - your comment is right on the money. Or ... it would be IF the NCAA - as a governing body - had any kind of consistency and was level headed. But, the NCAA isn't like the court system. It's a goddamned crapshoot. No, that's not an excuse for teams to cheat.

If I have a point, however, it's not to disagree with you so much as it is to point out the two issues - Gotcha Journalism and NCAA governance - are topics that need to be discussed. I mean to say - these are core issues and in my view generate more important discussion than trying to decide if Thad Gibson's car cost him zero dollars.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1919185; said:
Thump's original point isn't trying to turn attention from the school(s) to blaming the media. He noticed a trend among high profile programs, championships, and some journalist (usually a local guy, but not always (New York Times)) being the catalyst for a NCAA investigation. .
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You are correct.
 
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knapplc;1918712; said:
You guys are the focus right now, and I feel for you. Nebraska has been in the crosshairs (mid-90s) and I know how much it sucks.
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You are being waaaaay too generous, my friend. People have had Nebraska in their crosshairs since the Devaney years, LOL.

Most people see Nebraskans as a bunch of corn-fed, corn-raising, po-dunk, trailer park, pickup truck drivin, tobacco chewin', overall wearing, gun rack havin bunch of hill-billies.

And, maybe when you get past Lincoln.....it's true. But dammit, we're not all like that!!!

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BUCKYLE;1918785; said:
I believe the future of CFB will be when the power conferences break away from the NCAA, and allow some form of compensation to trickle down to the athletes.

The more those [censored]s from Utah push the issue, the more likely I think it is. So...Mr. Hatch...press on you stupid sonofabitch.
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I'm not in favor of paying college players. I am in favor of the forcing the nfl to create and fund a d-league for players who should not be on a college campus to begin with. Let them go make 40K/year honing their one marketable skill in Birmingham or Boise.

You'd immediately do away with 99% of the thugs, illiterates, and those with their hands out corrupting college football programs.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1919185; said:
Thump's original point isn't trying to turn attention from the school(s) to blaming the media. He noticed a trend among high profile programs, championships, and some journalist (usually a local guy, but not always (New York Times)) being the catalyst for a NCAA investigation.

If you don't believe that happens you're not paying attention.

As for your final sentence - your comment is right on the money. Or ... it would be IF the NCAA - as a governing body - had any kind of consistency and was level headed. But, the NCAA isn't like the court system. It's a goddamned crapshoot. No, that's not an excuse for teams to cheat.

If I have a point, however, it's not to disagree with you so much as it is to point out the two issues - Gotcha Journalism and NCAA governance - are topics that need to be discussed. I mean to say - these are core issues and in my view generate more important discussion than trying to decide if Thad Gibson's car cost him zero dollars.
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This may all be true, but would there be much gotcha journalism if there wasn't much to "gotcha"? Also, I'm no lover of journalists, but it seems folks eat that kinda crap up....so long as it isn't "my" team getting plundered. Folks seemed to think there wasn't enough coverage of everyone else's problems (USC, Aubie, and recently Boise)....but too much when it comes to tOSU.

I guess I'm just saying that while I agree with the general notion that much of today's media looks for a quick hitter/easy target...especially with 24/7 news cycles, I don't know how this translates to NCAA governance.
 
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matcar;1919337; said:
This may all be true, but would there be much gotcha journalism if there wasn't much to "gotcha"? Also, I'm no lover of journalists, but it seems folks eat that kinda crap up....so long as it isn't "my" team getting plundered. Folks seemed to think there wasn't enough coverage of everyone else's problems (USC, Aubie, and recently Boise)....but too much when it comes to tOSU.

I guess I'm just saying that while I agree with the general notion that much of today's media looks for a quick hitter/easy target...especially with 24/7 news cycles, I don't know how this translates to NCAA governance.
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Oh, I agree - people love schadenfrued and I am comfortable in admitting I was pretty excited to read ANYTHING negative about Auburn when that situation still had legs. It sucks when it's your school getting the shaft, no question, and Ohio State - with its alumni and its "reputation" (I'm talking fans, on line, on the radio and so on) - is guaranteed web hits, viewership, etc.

I just don't take it seriously because I realize it's not about news, it's about sales.

As to the NCAA governance issue - they are completely independent - at least I sure as fuck hope they are. If the NCAA is waiting for the "nation's pulse" on this, Ohio State is fucked.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1919334; said:
I'm not in favor of paying college players. I am in favor of the forcing the nfl to create and fund a d-league for players who should not be on a college campus to begin with. Let them go make 40K/year honing their one marketable skill in Birmingham or Boise.

You'd immediately do away with 99% of the thugs, illiterates, and those with their hands out corrupting college football programs.
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That was Binghamton, not Birmingham. And you wouldn't do away with anything, because all those players would try their hardest to get into major college programs (rather than being consigned to playing in an empty municipal stadium for $40K/year), and all the schools would be trying their hardest to bring them in (rather than allowing their talents to go to waste in some empty municipal stadium for $40K/year).
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1919185; said:
Thump's original point isn't trying to turn attention from the school(s) to blaming the media. He noticed a trend among high profile programs, championships, and some journalist (usually a local guy, but not always (New York Times)) being the catalyst for a NCAA investigation.

If you don't believe that happens you're not paying attention.

As for your final sentence - your comment is right on the money. Or ... it would be IF the NCAA - as a governing body - had any kind of consistency and was level headed. But, the NCAA isn't like the court system. It's a goddamned crapshoot. No, that's not an excuse for teams to cheat.

If I have a point, however, it's not to disagree with you so much as it is to point out the two issues - Gotcha Journalism and NCAA governance - are topics that need to be discussed. I mean to say - these are core issues and in my view generate more important discussion than trying to decide if Thad Gibson's car cost him zero dollars.
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I think the better question to ask then, is "Does any program that wants to win have to cheat to do so?"

The journalists finding stuff that's actually been done is just not an issue to me. Now if the NCAA hammers some school for shit they didn't actually do then its a different story.
 
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