HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

[GuiFMRS]

It's been 4 years now, he's getting worse and Harbaugh just clearly outcoached him for the second year in a row. He outcoached him to an almost incomprehensible degree.

It isn't comfortable but it's reality. The tide has turned. OSU is behind tsun in coaching and at several position groups.

That was not the case at all when Day took over.

Not only that, the situations they inherited are polar opposites, also the real scary part to me, is that I've seen more fight from them when they had terrible teams (Hoke years and sometimes in the Harbaugh era) than we've shown the last couple of years, and considering the differential in talent, 1st round or 2nd day draft picks we'll have, that's truly nightmarish.

 

[Onebuckfan]

It's been 4 years now, he's getting worse and Harbaugh just clearly outcoached him for the second year in a row. He outcoached him to an almost incomprehensible degree.

It isn't comfortable but it's reality. The tide has turned. OSU is behind tsun in coaching and at several position groups.

That was not the case at all when Day took over.

I can’t tell if Michigan is improving or has OSU lost its MOJO. Two years and there are more questions than answers..the issues go beyond the D we thought it was last year. Maybe we need an OC and a “real” QB coach.

 

[Dee-Liem]

I can’t tell if Michigan is improving or has OSU lost its MOJO. Two years and there are more questions than answers..the issues go beyond the D we thought it was last year. Maybe we need an OC and a “real” QB coach.

He had a real QB Coach in Yurcich and that lasted a year.

Rather than going to Urban or Chip Kelly, I wish Day would talk to a total outsider to him to get some advice.

 

[Systems_id]

I can’t tell if Michigan is improving or has OSU lost its MOJO. Two years and there are more questions than answers..the issues go beyond the D we thought it was last year. Maybe we need an OC and a “real” QB coach.

A little of column A and a little of column B. 2021 got beat physically. 2022 got beat mentally which is even worse imo and much harder to come back from. Buckeyes need to believe they can beat SCUM again.

 

[MaxBuck]

It's two games.

Two games.

I'm as disappointed as anyone here, but everyone needs to get a grip.

 

[inliner311]

I can’t tell if Michigan is improving or has OSU lost its MOJO. Two years and there are more questions than answers..the issues go beyond the D we thought it was last year. Maybe we need an OC and a “real” QB coach.

Day's offense got stale. By stale, I mean it just had been out too long in the college football atmosphere and teams were able to rot away it's advantages that Day had figured out. The amount of game tape and experience Michigan had against a Ryan Day offense just made it easy to figure out and predict what he was going to do.

This offense hasn't evolved since Haskins. If anything Day has taken out plays and become too hyper focus on being a passing team. By time it was real evident that the offense didn't have enough running concepts, it was too late to install enough to balance out the playcalling.

 

[brodybuck21]

Where Hairball is better than Day is at both coordinator spots and he's done it multiple times.

 

[inliner311]

It's two games.

Two games.

I'm as disappointed as anyone here, but everyone needs to get a grip.

I think someone else wrote on here this but the Michigan game is the gateway for this team to get to the big ten championship and the playoffs. The fact that Michigan has become a better team and they are the competition to get into the big ten championship game, paired with it being the last game of the regular season and there is no time to make up for it, I don't think it's just two games. There has to be an importance to the game to unlock all the other things this team wants to achieve even if you put aside the rivalry itself between the two teams.

 

[Captain Buckeye]

I think someone else wrote on here this but the Michigan game is the gateway for this team to get to the big ten championship and the playoffs. The fact that Michigan has become a better team and they are the competition to get into the big ten championship game, paired with it being the last game of the regular season and there is no time to make up for it, I don't think it's just two games. There has to be an importance to the game to unlock all the other things this team wants to achieve even if you put aside the rivalry itself between the two teams.

Ohio State has had a ton of unfortunate losses.

Sparty in 2013 and 2015, Penn State in 2016, Iowa in 2017, Purdue in 2018, and Michigan in 2021-2022. We lose games that really matter a lot.

 

[sg86]

I can’t tell if Michigan is improving or has OSU lost its MOJO. Two years and there are more questions than answers..the issues go beyond the D we thought it was last year. Maybe we need an OC and a “real” QB coach.

A little of both. But the real difference is that Michigan’s staff is smart enough to take what the other team gives them.

When we loaded the box, Harbaugh threw. When we stopped loading it because our secondary is trash, they put together a long drive on the ground.

They took what was given, even if it wasn’t what they wanted.

Meanwhile they’ve got press coverage at the line and Day is still trying to throw his dumb screens and run off tackle because he’s too arrogant to put his own desires aside to take what the defense is giving.

Michigan wanted to win above all else. Day only wanted to win his way.

and it’s not like it’s a case of it working perfectly all year and not wanting to stray from something successful. The offense has been in a rut all year against anyone with a pulse and he came out with the exact same plan thinking this might be the week it would actually work.

It’s either stupidity or arrogance and I don’t think Day is stupid.

 

[Captain Buckeye]

A little of both. But the real difference is that Michigan’s staff is smart enough to take what the other team gives them.

When we loaded the box, Harbaugh threw. When we stopped loading it because our secondary is trash, they put together a long drive on the ground.

They took what was given, even if it wasn’t what they wanted.

Meanwhile they’ve got press coverage at the line and Day is still trying to throw his dumb screens and run off tackle because he’s too arrogant to put his own desires aside to take what the defense is giving.

Michigan wanted to win above all else. Day only wanted to win his way.

and it’s not like it’s a case of it working perfectly all year and not wanting to stray from something successful. The offense has been in a rut all year against anyone with a pulse and he came out with the exact same plan thinking this might be the week it would actually work.

It’s either stupidity or arrogance and I don’t think Day is stupid.

I dont think Ryan is either arrogant or stupid.... I just think he has no patience. I think he out thinks himself a lot in these games. We were running for 6 yards per carry and then for no reason he'll do a screen or take a shot downfield. That's fine but when you then follow it up on 2nd and 10 with a run for 2 yards (leaving 3rd and 8) success is hard.

His best offense was 2019 and it wasn't close. Is it a coincidence that's when we were throwing 17-25 times a game while going for 250 on the ground every week? Then JK gets hurt and we go pass happy and lose.

Everyone forgets that 2019 LSU had a tough running game too or that 2021 Alabama had a dominant run game.

We should study ttuns run concepts and copy them if I'm being honest. We would be lethal on play action etc as a result of a run dominant approach. I think we could do what Michigan did to us yesterday vs every team we faced if we had the commitment to the run game like they do.

Our approach for 3 years has been "let's air it out"...but I think our approach should be let's punish teams running the ball and then hit them with play action when they cheat.

 

[NFBuck]

It's two games.

Two games.

I'm as disappointed as anyone here, but everyone needs to get a grip.

I lived through the Cooper years. I know what that looked like and felt like. If we lost the last two in a tightly contested game by simply being outplayed or a couple of lucky breaks going their way, I could get a grip. We got housed as we bumbled, fumbled, and imploded. I saw a lot of sulking on the sidelines late in the 3rd quarter like they knew they wouldn't win the goddamned game. Ryan Day looked like he was going to puke. He didn't look pissed. I didn't see him getting after people. He looked like had no idea what to do to change what was happening. That felt way too goddamned familiar. And hearing some of the stuff said postgame got my dander up further.

I want more than anything to be wrong and proven so next November. I hope this game does to Ryan Day what that first Clempson game did to Urban...you know the one...cold pizza on the golf cart. I'll be the first guy to offer my mea culpa and say I'm a stupid asshole. He has 12 months and he needs to treat this game like it needs to be treated, because I don't see how anyone can logically say he does based on what they saw (and heard).

 

[kujirakira]

And all people did was complain about how much the QB ran and wanted more passing.

Nah, the mantra here has consistently always been "feed RB X". Whether that was Hyde, Zeke, Dobbins, ... ...
We did complain a lot about over reliance on QB runs and how defenses used read-option to force QB to hold onto it, but i don't recall many people complaining that we should drop back more.
This is a RB-centric conference. Whether due to weather, culture, athlete body type availability... it's just how it is in the Big.

 

[kujirakira]

This is something that I’ve harped on all year and has bugged me so often during games. Checking to the sideline during crunch time is an indication that someone doesn’t trust CJ to make the calls, IMO. Maybe that’s entirely on one of Day/CJ, maybe a bit of both, but it’s not something I like to see. If CJ is as good as Day says, he should be running the offense on his own at least part of the time, especially if Day wants to treat the program like the NFL.

Yeap.
It stinks of either arrogance on Day' part, or immaturity on CJ' part.
I lean towards the former.

Day needs a big reality check imo.
He's still young enough to develop as a HC. Cooper came to us as a finished product. But it has to happen now.

 

[kujirakira]

I am not really certain that I believe Day can turn it around. This isn't a clinical exercise that he faces. He needs to generate an emotional push to win in Ann Arbor next year. I have seen no evidence that he is capable of emotional leadership of that kind.

He 100% needs a hire like Coombs to do it for him.
Unfortunately, Coombs wants to Peter Principle himself out of contention.