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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

Nah, the mantra here has consistently always been "feed RB X". Whether that was Hyde, Zeke, Dobbins, ... ...
We did complain a lot about over reliance on QB runs and how defenses used read-option to force QB to hold onto it, but i don't recall many people complaining that we should drop back more.
This is a RB-centric conference. Whether due to weather, culture, athlete body type availability... it's just how it is in the Big.
It's how good football is played too. Having such a reliance on the run or throw isn't good football. You're right in that no one complains at osu when we are feeding the RBs.

Often times it opens up a huge pass play anyways.
 
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Yep, OSU is so fucking brutal that you can go 11-1 a season after a Rose bowl win and people want you fired. You do that at any other bigten school you get a 15year contract and 150million guaranteed.

He could be 11-1 this year with a loss to MSU... and these threads wouldn't exist.
There would be some grumbling, but not the same thing.

Losing to that team is always ALWAYS always existential.
It is the #1 goal. Ever year.
Winning the Division. Winning the Conference. Bowls, Playoffs, etc. .... all of that comes after beating them.
 
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I think we're overestimating the playcalling, honestly. Was it a factor? Sure. In any loss, you can point to some bad play calls. My issue goes to a deeper, underlying, psychological malfunction. How many drives stalled out because they simply failed to execute the play they ran (dropped passes) or because of poor discipline (penalties) or simply losing their cool (Scott/Stover)? This team was not prepared to play, was tight, and were pressing. That 100% points to coaching. Jim Tressel and Urban Meyer were a combined 16-1 against those pricks. Do you recall any of their teams looking nervous? Did any of their teams collapse when the pressure got ratcheted up? Not once, but twice, Urban Meyer's team lost their starting qb with the game still undecided and won anyway...because they knew they could and would. This team got off to the exact start you want in this game and as soon as they had to face some adversity, they peed down their leg. Then in the post game, we had the HC making "coach speak" excuses and the QB, the face of the program, saying "this game doesn't define us." Um, excuse me? Do you think a Woody Hayes, Jim Tressel, or Urban Meyer qb would say that after just getting their asses kicked into their throat would say that? I sure as shit don't. That's disrespectful to every single player that put that uniform on before you. It just is and if he doesn't understand that it's because his coach failed to drill that into him.
 
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I think we're overestimating the playcalling, honestly. Was it a factor? Sure. In any loss, you can point to some bad play calls. My issue goes to a deeper, underlying, psychological malfunction. How many drives stalled out because they simply failed to execute the play they ran (dropped passes) or because of poor discipline (penalties) or simply losing their cool (Scott/Stover)? This team was not prepared to play, was tight, and were pressing. That 100% points to coaching. Jim Tressel and Urban Meyer were a combined 16-1 against those pricks. Do you recall any of their teams looking nervous? Did any of their teams collapse when the pressure got ratcheted up? Not once, but twice, Urban Meyer's team lost their starting qb with the game still undecided and won anyway...because they knew they could and would. This team got off to the exact start you want in this game and as soon as they had to face some adversity, they peed down their leg. Then in the post game, we had the HC making "coach speak" excuses and the QB, the face of the program, saying "this game doesn't define us." Um, excuse me? Do you think a Woody Hayes, Jim Tressel, or Urban Meyer qb would say that after just getting their asses kicked into their throat would say that? I sure as shit don't. That's disrespectful to every single player that put that uniform on before you. It just is and if he doesn't understand that it's because his coach failed to drill that into him.

This ^^^
 
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I think we're overestimating the playcalling, honestly. Was it a factor? Sure. In any loss, you can point to some bad play calls. My issue goes to a deeper, underlying, psychological malfunction. How many drives stalled out because they simply failed to execute the play they ran (dropped passes) or because of poor discipline (penalties) or simply losing their cool (Scott/Stover)? This team was not prepared to play, was tight, and were pressing. That 100% points to coaching. Jim Tressel and Urban Meyer were a combined 16-1 against those pricks. Do you recall any of their teams looking nervous? Did any of their teams collapse when the pressure got ratcheted up? Not once, but twice, Urban Meyer's team lost their starting qb with the game still undecided and won anyway...because they knew they could and would. This team got off to the exact start you want in this game and as soon as they had to face some adversity, they peed down their leg. Then in the post game, we had the HC making "coach speak" excuses and the QB, the face of the program, saying "this game doesn't define us." Um, excuse me? Do you think a Woody Hayes, Jim Tressel, or Urban Meyer qb would say that after just getting their asses kicked into their throat would say that? I sure as shit don't. That's disrespectful to every single player that put that uniform on before you. It just is and if he doesn't understand that it's because his coach failed to drill that into him.

that CJ quote pisses me off to the point that I will never bash the kid personally but for fucks sakes man..that’s the soft stuff I’ve been hammering at..that game defines your season and your career as a buckeye the rest of your life. He doesn’t and the team did not understand the magnitude of Michigan vs Ohio state..By any means necessary you win that game..
 
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that CJ quote pisses me off to the point that I will never bash the kid personally but for fucks sakes man..that’s the soft stuff I’ve been hammering at..that game defines your season and your career as a buckeye the rest of your life. He doesn’t and the team did not understand the magnitude of Michigan vs Ohio state..By any means necessary you win that game..

It's mind boggling. Even if he doesn't get the rivalry, that game has tore up his ticket to the post season 2 years in a row.
Even if he doesn't care about that, and only personal awards - that game will make him a bystander for the Heisman 2 years in a row.
And it doesn't define them? That's sore loser words. Trying to cope when he fell short.
 
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I do think in many respects it is play calling. On both side of our game.

I think Day is very predictable and transmits to a degree of some certainty what play is coming next. I don't recall in this game where players were wide open, or something caught TTUN off guard.

The D was too aggressive at times to the point that TTUN had packages ready for it.

I really thought Day was holding stuff back this season. I don't think that. I think he is super predictable.

Knowles I get the feeling he will mark this one his books as a must change.

As for CJ... nice kid, good athlete and with that I am glad he's gone. He is, and most likely will never be a competitor to where he cares about winning. Is that Day? I don't know.
Burrow was calm and collected, yet the kid was a killer. Many of our QB's were, including Fields. CJ is a big no.

With that said, I predict within the next 10 or so years, these rivalries will be a thing of the past. A relic. Kids these days, especially the exceptional kids, use their college years as a spring board, and NIL with the portal make it even worse. The death blow to rivalries was the expanded playoff.

I think sooner than later OSU wins again against TTUN, and they get better players who put their program in the same predicament that OSU, Alabama, Oklahoma.... where success drives a counter wave.
 
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Nah, the mantra here has consistently always been "feed RB X". Whether that was Hyde, Zeke, Dobbins, ... ...
We did complain a lot about over reliance on QB runs and how defenses used read-option to force QB to hold onto it, but i don't recall many people complaining that we should drop back more.
This is a RB-centric conference. Whether due to weather, culture, athlete body type availability... it's just how it is in the Big.
Disagree.
 
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