HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

[Thump]

Ok March 1, 2023... Jim Tressel should be the official advisor/coach for the Game and advise Day as such. Lol

Just busting your chops!

Well-played.

 

[Captain Buckeye]

Ok March 1, 2023... Jim Tressel should be the official advisor/coach for the Game and advise Day and so forth. Lol

FIFY.

 

[billmac91]

Do you think Day has reached out to Meyer or vice-versa?

I think they're absolutely in contact....it'd be impossible for them not to be IMO. I think they've always maintained a strong relationship.

But there's only so much that can be imparted on a program through telephone conversations and limited exposure to the program.

Ryan Day is his own coach and has his own methods. He's still learning a bit on the job IMO. And he's taking it on the chin from really strong, physical-ass Michigan teams. I don't think we should lose site of that either. While we enjoy the short stays of JT Tuimoloau and Paris Johnson, Michigan is starting multiple Graduate Transfers and guys on their 6th year in program along offensive and defensive lines.

Ohio State is a football factory for the NFL. Michigan has veered a different way and are really built around a strong core of upper-classmen with a few younger players sprinkled in. I'd guess the average age of our roster vs Michigan is close to 1.5 years younger. Which is a huge difference in College football.

Just look at some of this:

Ronnie Bell - Graduate
Cornelius Johnson - Senior
Ryan Hayes - Graduate
Olu Oluwattimi - Graduate Transfer
Luke Schoonmaker - Senior
Eyabi Okie - Graduate Transfer
Mazi Smith - Senior
Mike Morris - Senior
Michael Barrett - Graduate
DJ Turner - Senior
Mike Sainristil - Senior
Brad Robbins - Graduate
Jake Moody - Graduate

That's 13 senior starters, many in their 5th year of play. Almost every other starter outside of JJ McCarthy is then a junior.

Let's compare to OSU:

Matt Jones - RS Senior
Dawand Jones - Senior
Taron Vincent - Senior
Zach Harrison - Senior
Cam Browns - RS Senior
Tanner McCalister - Graduate Transfer
Noah Ruggles - Graduate Transfer


And to be honest, I'd still rather be "us" than "them". I feel like the Covid year has boosted their roster and depth but that is temporary. That "extra" year expires relatively soon and we've already seen some roster attrition from younger players on their team.

We still have a lot of soul searching to do but I'm not ready to jump off a cliff either.

 

[Onebuckfan]

Ryan Day is not obsessed with scUM. He’s built a team to win the NC. If tOSU played in the SEC we’d be close to Georgia. Playing Mich is a different animal and even in the SEC, we wouldn’t have a play maker at QB we’d have a thrower… Our roster with Caleb Williams would be a nightmare even with our limitations play calling. He uses all the tools he has..arm feet confidence bravado. Our QB has arm confidence cool ..

 

[Onebuckfan]

He needs to talk to Urban.. not xand o not recruiting not practice not Mariotti. BUT WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO GET FROM NOW TO A WIN NEXT NOVEMBER. What can Day do or not do to achieve success in Ann Arbor. He clearly needs help the problem is most people in his position are to arrogant confident to seek help. So next year we can Hope something changes..not the place as a fan I want to be in. Nevertheless O-H.

 

[buckeyemania11]

I think they're absolutely in contact....it'd be impossible for them not to be IMO. I think they've always maintained a strong relationship.

But there's only so much that can be imparted on a program through telephone conversations and limited exposure to the program.

Ryan Day is his own coach and has his own methods. He's still learning a bit on the job IMO. And he's taking it on the chin from really strong, physical-ass Michigan teams. I don't think we should lose site of that either. While we enjoy the short stays of JT Tuimoloau and Paris Johnson, Michigan is starting multiple Graduate Transfers and guys on their 6th year in program along offensive and defensive lines.

Ohio State is a football factory for the NFL. Michigan has veered a different way and are really built around a strong core of upper-classmen with a few younger players sprinkled in. I'd guess the average age of our roster vs Michigan is close to 1.5 years younger. Which is a huge difference in College football.

Just look at some of this:

Ronnie Bell - Graduate
Cornelius Johnson - Senior
Ryan Hayes - Graduate
Olu Oluwattimi - Graduate Transfer
Luke Schoonmaker - Senior
Eyabi Okie - Graduate Transfer
Mazi Smith - Senior
Mike Morris - Senior
Michael Barrett - Graduate
DJ Turner - Senior
Mike Sainristil - Senior
Brad Robbins - Graduate
Jake Moody - Graduate

That's 13 senior starters, many in their 5th year of play. Almost every other starter outside of JJ McCarthy is then a junior.

Let's compare to OSU:

Matt Jones - RS Senior
Dawand Jones - Senior
Taron Vincent - Senior
Zach Harrison - Senior
Cam Browns - RS Senior
Tanner McCalister - Graduate Transfer
Noah Ruggles - Graduate Transfer


And to be honest, I'd still rather be "us" than "them". I feel like the Covid year has boosted their roster and depth but that is temporary. That "extra" year expires relatively soon and we've already seen some roster attrition from younger players on their team.

We still have a lot of soul searching to do but I'm not ready to jump off a cliff either.

We also expected them to collapse on defense this year after losing Hutchinson/Ojabo & Dax Hill, their 3 best defensive players.

That didn't happen.

And the offense to come apart at some point when it was clear they were 100% reliant on Corum

That REALLY didn't happen against us.

I'm just expecting them to continue to be great against us going forward at this point.

 

[billmac91]

We also expected them to collapse on defense this year after losing Hutchinson/Ojabo & Dax Hill, their 3 best defensive players.

That didn't happen.

And the offense to come apart at some point when it was clear they were 100% reliant on Corum

That REALLY didn't happen against us.

I'm just expecting them to continue to be great against us going forward at this point.

I expected them to take a significant step back after last season and was clearly wrong. I wouldn't say they reloaded, but they certainly "re-tooled". Their grad transfer signees were extremely impactful. They didn't get the production from DE like last year, but they were exceptional in pass coverage. It just seems like they were able to find a way, albeit, slightly differently than last year.

CJ was under duress, it felt like every snap, last year. This year it felt like he had nearly all day and had to be pinpoint just to get the completion. They played a bit softer, and definitely added a few wrinkles like dropping their DE's into passing lanes for our typical go to 3rd down slant.

And I'm having a hard time swallowing the performance of JJ McCarthy. Call me biased, but I still don't see a very good QB. We sold out to stop the run by bringing our safeties forward, and unfortunately our CB's just aren't at a level we need them to be. Other than the (3) big plays.....2 over the top to wide open receivers, and one broken tackle that went down the sideline, he just wasn't very accurate. Have to give him credit for making the plays when needed and for not taking a sack or turning the ball over.

It'll be interesting to see who Michigan brings in via the portal this off-season. It seems like they're filling at least 2 starting spots yearly, and getting pretty high level play. I think it also works within their culture, where most of the younger players know they're waiting their turn while they get more seasoned in the strength and conditioning program.

 

[buckeyemania11]

I expected them to take a significant step back after last season and was clearly wrong. I wouldn't say they reloaded, but they certainly "re-tooled". Their grad transfer signees were extremely impactful. They didn't get the production from DE like last year, but they were exceptional in pass coverage. It just seems like they were able to find a way, albeit, slightly differently than last year.

CJ was under duress, it felt like every snap, last year. This year it felt like he had nearly all day and had to be pinpoint just to get the completion. They played a bit softer, and definitely added a few wrinkles like dropping their DE's into passing lanes for our typical go to 3rd down slant.

And I'm having a hard time swallowing the performance of JJ McCarthy. Call me biased, but I still don't see a very good QB. We sold out to stop the run by bringing our safeties forward, and unfortunately our CB's just aren't at a level we need them to be. Other than the (3) big plays.....2 over the top to wide open receivers, and one broken tackle that went down the sideline, he just wasn't very accurate. Have to give him credit for making the plays when needed and for not taking a sack or turning the ball over.

It'll be interesting to see who Michigan brings in via the portal this off-season. It seems like they're filling at least 2 starting spots yearly, and getting pretty high level play. I think it also works within their culture, where most of the younger players know they're waiting their turn while they get more seasoned in the strength and conditioning program.

Oh I agree.

McCarthy did what any QB should given the wide open chances he had against the defense that kept being presented. Give him credit for not screwing up those golden opportunities but I wouldn't call his performance particularly eye popping great though. Still wouldn't trust him at all against a defense that actually makes him make tough throws into actual coverage.

 

[jwinslow]

And I'm having a hard time swallowing the performance of JJ McCarthy. Call me biased, but I still don't see a very good QB. We sold out to stop the run by bringing our safeties forward, and unfortunately our CB's just aren't at a level we need them to be. Other than the (3) big plays.....2 over the top to wide open receivers, and one broken tackle that went down the sideline, he just wasn't very accurate. Have to give him credit for making the plays when needed and for not taking a sack or turning the ball over.

and to his credit, he calmed down and underthrew a few of the deep balls to give his WR a chance, something he almost never did this year. But those were crazy openings he had to throw into. That 3rd down pass into the blitz was strong but that's something he does well (quick underneath throws). His arm strength is very good, it's his touch and consistency that is lacking.

The UM fans were as shocked by that gentle throw to the TE as anyone.

 

[1926Buckeyes]

And I'm having a hard time swallowing the performance of JJ McCarthy. Call me biased, but I still don't see a very good QB. We sold out to stop the run by bringing our safeties forward, and unfortunately our CB's just aren't at a level we need them to be. Other than the (3) big plays.....2 over the top to wide open receivers, and one broken tackle that went down the sideline, he just wasn't very accurate. Have to give him credit for making the plays when needed and for not taking a sack or turning the ball over.

Yeah the broken tackle will happen, and that's the one play I wouldn't have been shocked by. It's happened from time to time with Knowles, even though it was a dumb call to make on 3rd and long.

The other 2 are completely unacceptable. I think Day has really let the 2nd half performance of '21 TTUN get in his head. It's clear that the safeties and corners were drilled to play the run aggressively to the point of recklessness, and while I'm sure Knowles had something to do with that, I'd guess Day put his hand on the scale to influence it even more. A missed tackle in cover 0 sucks, but literally giving them 14 points is malpractice by the coaching staff.

 

[osuvictory1]

I think they're absolutely in contact....it'd be impossible for them not to be IMO. I think they've always maintained a strong relationship.

But there's only so much that can be imparted on a program through telephone conversations and limited exposure to the program.

Ryan Day is his own coach and has his own methods. He's still learning a bit on the job IMO. And he's taking it on the chin from really strong, physical-ass Michigan teams. I don't think we should lose site of that either. While we enjoy the short stays of JT Tuimoloau and Paris Johnson, Michigan is starting multiple Graduate Transfers and guys on their 6th year in program along offensive and defensive lines.

Ohio State is a football factory for the NFL. Michigan has veered a different way and are really built around a strong core of upper-classmen with a few younger players sprinkled in. I'd guess the average age of our roster vs Michigan is close to 1.5 years younger. Which is a huge difference in College football.

Just look at some of this:

Ronnie Bell - Graduate
Cornelius Johnson - Senior
Ryan Hayes - Graduate
Olu Oluwattimi - Graduate Transfer
Luke Schoonmaker - Senior
Eyabi Okie - Graduate Transfer
Mazi Smith - Senior
Mike Morris - Senior
Michael Barrett - Graduate
DJ Turner - Senior
Mike Sainristil - Senior
Brad Robbins - Graduate
Jake Moody - Graduate

That's 13 senior starters, many in their 5th year of play. Almost every other starter outside of JJ McCarthy is then a junior.

Let's compare to OSU:

Matt Jones - RS Senior
Dawand Jones - Senior
Taron Vincent - Senior
Zach Harrison - Senior
Cam Browns - RS Senior
Tanner McCalister - Graduate Transfer
Noah Ruggles - Graduate Transfer


And to be honest, I'd still rather be "us" than "them". I feel like the Covid year has boosted their roster and depth but that is temporary. That "extra" year expires relatively soon and we've already seen some roster attrition from younger players on their team.

We still have a lot of soul searching to do but I'm not ready to jump off a cliff either.

That was exactly my point. We have 20 year old super stars, where they have 23 year old grown ass men. There is a physical and mental disparity.

That is why they are perfectly happy with 2 and 3 star recruits, mixed in with 4 star misfits from other schools. Edited in: their 4 and 5 stars, Edwards and McCarthy did play a huge role in their success this season.

It's also the reason they will get curb stomped in a playoff system, because eventually they will come across a team that matches up talent wise, in a more complicated scheme. Somebody like most of the top SEC teams. Lol

 

[Jake]

Ryan Day is not obsessed with scUM. He’s built a team to win the NC. If tOSU played in the SEC we’d be close to Georgia. Playing Mich is a different animal and even in the SEC, we wouldn’t have a play maker at QB we’d have a thrower… Our roster with Caleb Williams would be a nightmare even with our limitations play calling. He uses all the tools he has..arm feet confidence bravado. Our QB has arm confidence cool ..

Well, if he wants to win the NC he'd better get obsessed with scUM. We're not an SEC team. We don't get a guaranteed Mulligan for losing a game. We may get in with a loss, or not. Then there are the alumni with deep pockets. Losing to TTUN and watching someone else in the CCG isn't what they're buying with their donations and NIL money.

If the Bucks do make the CFP it had better be a good performance. If you don't win, at least be competitive. Getting blown out will only turn up the pressure.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Ryan Day is not obsessed with scUM. He’s built a team to win the NC. If tOSU played in the SEC we’d be close to Georgia. Playing Mich is a different animal and even in the SEC, we wouldn’t have a play maker at QB we’d have a thrower… Our roster with Caleb Williams would be a nightmare even with our limitations play calling. He uses all the tools he has..arm feet confidence bravado. Our QB has arm confidence cool ..

It's been said before that Ohio State is built to win the NC but not necessarily built to always win the Big 10, which is 100% true currently. They need to find that fine balance of being built to win the NC but also having the horses to not get ran over again by scUM in the game.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

 

[sg86]

Hartman's entire schtick is thinking the world is worse off because it's not 1952 anymore.