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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

We're built for these playoffs. How good we play is now, and in future, dependent on the QB abs hire many turnovers the Defense can get. The low end of that just happened against our bad match up and here comes another one.

I hope it's true. But he has to prove that now if he can't beat that school.
If he pulls this off without JSN and Hendo your damn right all is forgiven.

This team recruits too many studs at those positions to keep using them as excuses imo.
We've known JSN was done for awhile.
He knew Henderson needed surgery a month ago.
And both those rooms are stacked.

If this team cant compete without them at this point, that falls on coaches.
 
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Two offense first, defense optional, B12 type coaches who specialize in QB development. Riley is up 3 Heisman's to none.

He is going to be a major thorn in Days side on the QB recruiting circuit if Day is still at OSU in '24.

How many playoff wins? And at least Day is trying on D (see him replacing nearly every coach on D after 2021). Meanwhile, Riley is content to keep fucking Grinch around. I'm pretty much out on Day unless he pulls a miracle out of his ass these playoffs, but pumping up Riley over him is pretty weak.
 
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Harbaugh, Bert, Fickell and Rhule all have more HC experience and I'd put on the new list as "better". You have Chip Kelley and Lincoln Riley headed inbound year after next.

If parsing that down to maybe he's better than Riley, maybe he's not instills a lot of confidence in anyone about Day then to each their own.

I personally don't think the Ohio State coach should be fighting for 5th or 6th place on a best coaches in the new B1G list.

Putting Bert ahead is laughable, and Rhule is extremely questionable since he's had the luxury of coaching teams with no expectations against lousy competition. We've seen countless coaches do that and then faceplant at a blueblood (see Charlie Strong, Tom Herman, Willie Taggart, Brady Hoke, etc).

Fickell has an argument, but again, coaching at UC is a hell of a lot different than Ohio State. See 2011.

Day deserves heat, but at least attempt to keep things in perspective.
 
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How many playoff wins? And at least Day is trying on D (see him reaplcing nearly every coach on D after 2021). Meanwhile, Riley is content to keep fucking Grinch around. I'm pretty much out on Day unless he pulls a miracle out of his ass these playoffs, but pumping up Riley over him is pretty weak.

again, at this point both are nothing more than QB developers and offense first guys who's QB's pump out crazy numbers. Day tries to hire DC's while Riley sticks with Grinch but what is the real difference between can't and won't? None as near as I can tell.

So if they are just QB gurus posing as head coaches, Riley is sitting there with his 3 Heisman winners recruiting a QB against Day. You really think that somehow puts him far behind in a QB recruits eyes?
 
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Putting Bert ahead is laughable, and Rhule is extremely questionable since he's had the luxury of coaching teams with no expectations against lousy competition. We've seen countless coaches do that and then faceplant at a blueblood (see Charlie Strong, Tom Herman, Willie Taggart, Brady Hoke, etc).

Fickell has an argument, but again, coaching at UC is a hell of a lot different than Ohio State. See 2011.

Day deserves heat, but at least attempt to keep things in perspective.

What perspective is there on Day? He has no HC experience anywhere else. He was stood up on 3rd base, handed the keys and told not to wreck it. So far it looks like that's exactly what he did.

Everyone of those guys you are dismissing has HC experience, they have learned something. Had to take over other rosters and get them to perform. Day hasn't proven anything but an inability to beat tsun which is job 1,2 and 3 for an OSU head coach.
 
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I hope it's true. But he has to prove that now if he can't beat that school.


This team recruits too many studs at those positions to keep using them as excuses imo.
We've known JSN was done for awhile.
He knew Henderson needed surgery a month ago.
And both those rooms are stacked.

If this team cant compete without them at this point, that falls on coaches.

It's a fine line. At this point, you have what you have and use that for constructing a game plan. It's not an excuse for losing to TTUN, but it's still significant, especially for the playoffs. JSN He can't be replaced, but his absence has almost been discounted due to him barely playing. Same with Henderson, but Williams' improvement made up for it before his injury.

I guess my thought is, we can criticize elements of the game plan, but the loss of JSN, and to a lesser extent, Henderson are major factors in what this offense can and can't do against the best teams in the country. Especially when many of the issues we keep talking about are fixed with a healthy JSN. I imagine that Day would have installed different concepts in the spring and fall had he known he'd be without him.

Maybe a nice little moral victory in a loss to Georgia would be best for all involved . Losing to scUM in the NC game would hurt the fan base and the coaches. Sarcasm

I'm not giving up on them winning a rematch. The team didn't play with their backs against the wall, they played like they were trying to make a statement, win the CCG, and get ready for the playoffs. I think you see a different mentality when the only thing that matters is getting a win.
 
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again, at this point both are nothing more than QB developers and offense first guys who's QB's pump out crazy numbers. Day tries to hire DC's while Riley sticks with Grinch but what is the real difference between can't and won't? None as near as I can tell.

So if they are just QB gurus posing as head coaches, Riley is sitting there with his 3 Heisman winners recruiting a QB against Day. You really think that somehow puts him far behind in a QB recruits eyes?

Day's hiring of Hafley was an A+ and Knowles was at minimum an upgrade, although the jury is still out. He hasn't hired 4 straight Grinch's, so that's clearly in favor of Day vs Riley who just coasts in conferences where D is optional.

Day is churning out Heisman finalists every year in a conference that plays D and in bad weather. Maybe he's the one coaching Heisman winners if he was in a state that has 75 degree November games and plays 1-2 top 50 D's a year.

Yeah, they have similar faults, but the insinuation that there is no discernible difference between them is unsubstantiated imo. That's what I take issue with. Day is not getting the job done, but that's relative to the expectations at Ohio State. Bert's fatass nor Lincoln have done anything to suggest they would be better than Day here
 
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