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t_BuckeyeScott
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I think this is the approach any reasonable person might take. I think then we can agree that the Vince Young caused more of those TD receptions than the recievers. Now if we just put into some kind of terms that people who have been exposed to too many high energy photons could understand we actually might come up with one more intelligent poster on this thread.
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sandgk
Watson, Crick & A Twist
I believe that means you are going to have make it clear as crystal.
One question I am pondering now is how tOSU will organize its defense to limit the young UT QBs effectiveness. I am guessing this will feature much more of an effective DE rush than last years campaign, which often got most of its pressure from the LB corp playing off the edge (Carpenter for instance). Whichever way it is done, getting McCoy (or Snead) on their backside or hurried with regularity surely has to be part of the game plan.
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campies
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I believe that Hamby drop took place with about 6:30 left in the 3rd quarter. Let me say that again, the 3RD QUARTER. If you can't understand how clock, lead, situation all factor into how a team executes a more conservative versus a more aggressive gameplan as a game winds on, well, then I guess you're pretty much the same as the guy that keeps talking about Hamby's drop and our 25 whopping points as the end-all-be-all of inmature, narrow-minded fans. Those of us on both sides have testified to the talents and heroics that Vince Young displayed, and after what we've seen from him in this among other games, I have a hard time believing that you're dismissing the possibility that he could have overcome the challenge of an added touchdown by Hamby with so much time left in the game. Not only that, but while we're second guessing, don't get us started on the same lack of execution that led Texas missing opportunities throughout the game despite excellent field position (1st drive 1st down inside the 10, dropped interceptions, thrown interceptions, Melton's Leap of Faith, blah blah blah).
I know what you're saying, and I'm sure its frustrating but get over it. The only reason people keep giving you reasons is because you're bringing up the same tired story.
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Obviously, we haven't yet discussed all the possible, hypothetical combinations of plays between the two 5,000 post threads that could have resulted in a different outcome in a game that was played almost one year ago, and has no bearing on the game this season since many of the principals are gone. :pIsn't this thread titled: Game Two: at Texas 9/9/06 ?
Just wondered...
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
I realize what you're saying, in that if Hamby scores that touchdown, the situation changes and playcalling is different on both sides of the ball for both teams, and the subsequent plays are, most likely, very different from the plays that were actually called. Thus, the game after that play was different from the hypothetical game that "might have been" played had that touchdown been scored.
You use that argument to support that Texas still would have won. Young would have found a way. What makes you so sure that Tressel's conservative playcalling from that point on wouldn't have won the game for Ohio State? Giving Ohio State a 10-point lead, instead of a 6-point lead changes Ohio State's offensive playcalling tremendously. Ohio State may have run out the clock, not even giving Young time to get down the field that late and score that last touchdown. He may have tried to be too aggressive, and Ohio State may have intercepted a terrible pass and kicked another field goal. Or, maybe even scored a touchdown when Texas's defense was trying to strip the ball from the Buckeye ball-carriers. Ohio State may have won 35-16.
My point is that if you're going to try to use the "butterfly effect" argument, you can't just imply that Texas still had a great chance to win. Sure, they would have had a chance. In fact, they'd have a better chance than any other team to overcome a 10-point lead in Ohio Stadium. But I think you're giving Texas too much credit.
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Here's an outlandish scenario:
Ohio State would've beaten Texas last season if they'd have scored more points!
Ohio State would've beaten Texas last season if they'd have scored more points!
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}LonghornFan{
Junior
Here's a still shot - you're 270lbs, lower your shoulder and keep your feet on the ground! If you watch it full speed, it was only over for a Mililani Second.
BTW - isn't this a tackle that you won't be returning this year?
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MyMamaTastesFunny
All-American
Snead?
I read a quote from Mack Brown that Snead will get more reps in pre-season workouts. Could this be a clue that he will be the starter on Spetmebr 9th?
I read a quote from Mack Brown that Snead will get more reps in pre-season workouts. Could this be a clue that he will be the starter on Spetmebr 9th?
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MyMamaTastesFunny
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By the way, that's September 9th. Spetmebr 9th is a bank holiday in Lower Albania.
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t_BuckeyeScott
Hall of Fame
sandgk said:
Guess we did. Much like the quote about 40 receptions for 4 recievers he dropped the argument. I'm thinking XRay can't admit to see someone else's point especially when it goes against his notion that UT will when this game 50-3.
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}LonghornFan{
Junior
We were at the game last year and I specifically recall emptying half of my flask on the row in front of me when they didn't review that play. I may be wrong (hadn't slept for 46 hours) but had this been reviewed...
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This brings me to another point about last years game but will contribute to the 2006 game discussion. Everything about our experience in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:pColumbus</st1:City> last year was awesome except for a near miss when I started to drive our RV down fraternity row and the fact that only selected plays were replayed on the Jumbo Tron. In fact, the only plays that were shown were great OSU plays or scores. I understand that this was another act of your fabulous pres, Mrs Holbrook (also the reason why we had to hide the keg in the shower of the RV).<O:p</O:p
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For those of you traveling to <st1:City w:st="on">Austin </st1:City>this year, here are a few things you can look forward to...<O:p</O:p
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1) Drink wherever you want - you can bring it or buy it. Stop by Shultz’s Garden, they have multiple beer stands selling several flavors in 16 or 24oz cans. We usually load up on 2x24 before walking to the stadium.<O:p</O:p
2) <st1:State w:st="on"><ST1:pTexas </st1:State>women - you can't appreciate what we're talking about until you see it for yourself on game day<O:p</O:p
3) Texas BBQ - since this will be a night game, you'll need to eat at some point during the day. As readily available as the beer, might as well grab another 24oz with your brisket sandwich.<O:p</O:p
4) <st1:State w:st="on"><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> women - burnt orange will begin to grow on you<O:p</O:p
5) Replays of nearly every down on the world's largest HD LED Screen (had to plug that again), good or bad for the home team. Every seat in the stadium has a view of the field but you'll be able to see each play from the best view.<O:p</O:p
6) <st1:State w:st="on"><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> women - I promise<O:p</O:p
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Going to be a great game...tickets are in the mail, beer is on ice! If you're making the trip down, shoot me a private message with any questions you might have. Our crew is ready to return the hospitality and we look forward to talking all kinds of sht in<st1:City w:st="on">Austin</st1:City> as we get nice and sauced for the game. <O:p</O:p
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