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Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

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texhornfan said:
run up 250 to 270 yds between the tackels, no prolem.
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Here are the rushing totals against our defense--which was #1 in the nation against the rush--for last year:

Miami (Oh): 48
Texas: 112 (76 by Young)
San Diego St.: 13
Iowa: -9
Penn St.: 117
Michigan St.: 116
Indiana: 42
Minnesota: 182
Illinois: 68
Northwestern: 98
Michigan: 32
Notre Dame: 62

Only one team was able to run effectively against us, and that was Minnesota with Laurence Maroney who had 127 yards rushing himself (53 on one play). By the way, that was on the road and Maroney was the #2 RB picked in the recent NFL draft.

Before you flame here, you should at least learn how to spell "tackles" and "problem". Like red?...
 
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texhornfan said:
run up 250 to 270 yds between the tackels, no prolem.
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Come on man, nothing in this game is going to be "no prolem."

Also, you if you are going to post outlandish predickyuns, you might want to spell check them first

We would only keep it between the tackles the entire game if JC was injured, SY was injured, and RT didn't qualify. Then maybe (still unlikely) we would just try to run it up the middle with Melton.

Also, I think Tressel & Co are smart enough to adjust if UT gains close to 75 yards even between the tackles.
 
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texasfight06 said:
Come on man, nothing in this game is going to be "no prolem."

Also, you if you are going to post outlandish predickyuns, you might want to spell check them first

We would only keep it between the tackles the entire game if JC was injured, SY was injured, and RT didn't qualify. Then maybe (still unlikely) we would just try to run it up the middle with Melton.

Also, I think Tressel & Co are smart enough to adjust if UT gains close to 75 yards even between the tackles.
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I dont think he is aware of how many good defensive linemen we return. Yes we lost a lot of great players on defense, but our defensive line returns almost entirely. Pitcock and Patterson, our starting DTs, have a ton of experience and have started for over 2 years. The back-up Penton also has starting experience. The 4th defensive tackle job is still up in the air, but there are 2 candidates that will be fine.

We return 6 of the top 8 defensive linemen we had last year, and the 2 defensive linemen we lost werent drafted:

DT Quinn Pitcock
DT David Patterson
DT Joel Penton
DT Nader Abdallah

DE Jay Richardson
DE Lawrence Wilson
DE Vernon Gholston
DE Alex Barrow

I seriously doubt that there is a team in the country that can run for 250+ up the middle against us. Some teams might have success running up the middle, it depends on how well our linebackers get off of their blocks and react, but they wont have that much success.
 
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If we give up 250-275 between the tackles, game over, Texas wins.

BUT, since this wouldn't happen in a million years...I think if Texas puts up 250-275 on the ground regardless of where they get it, we might be in trouble. THOUGH...I love how Heacock adjusts at the half, sometimes mid-2nd quarter to offenses who have early success on us.
 
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Cornerback6 said:
...I love how Heacock adjusts at the half, sometimes mid-2nd quarter to offenses who have early success on us.
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The Minnesota game was a great example. We gave up 320 yards in the first half. After halftime adjustments, we gave up 147 yards on six drives until our bench gave up 80 yards on the meaningless last drive of the game. It was a little weird giving up 578 yards and still winning comfortably...
 
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I'd say the INTs against OU are more telling, considering they were the best defense you faced most of those years. Perhaps you will be right about Texas throwing 12 INTs, considering the rest of your schedule. However, averaging 1 int per game does not mean your team will have the same success vs OSU.
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I don't think they are relevant. For one there is no similarity between the 2006 tOSU secondary, and the OU secondaries of 2001-2003. The experience level and style of play is quite a bit different.

Secondly it neglects the fact that Chris Simms imploded as per his usual big game performance in 2001 and 2002. Back in 2001 I almost got banned from hornfans.com for suggesting that an intereception returned for a touchdown should be called a Simms. There is no doubt that Mock and Young made some bad mistakes against the OU secondary in 2003, part due to my third point.

Thirdly, back then OU knew all the pre-snap reads and adjustments and could anticipate, and even control the plays. Greg Davis has changed the offense since then, so that we don't make the same adjustments all the time.

Lastly, the two QBs are already smarter about reading the defenses than Simms, Mock or Young were during that timeframe. They are more at the level of Major Applewhite as a freshman. I don't know how many INTs he had against OU, but since we won 34-3, it wasn't many.

By the way. The last three times Texas has started a freshman QB against OU, Texas won (Gardere, Brown, Applewhite).
 
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xrayrandy said:
I don't think they are relevant. For one there is no similarity between the 2006 tOSU secondary, and the OU secondaries of 2001-2003. The experience level and style of play is quite a bit different.
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And just how would you know that our secondaries are so different?

xrayrandy said:
Lastly, the two QBs are already smarter about reading the defenses than Simms, Mock or Young were during that timeframe. They are more at the level of Major Applewhite as a freshman.
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Again, just how do you know this? Snead, a kid who is still in frickin' high school, and McCoy, who has never set foot on the field, are smarter at reading college defenses Simms, Mock, or Young when they were freshman? You're posting simply to post...
 
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And just how would you know that our secondaries are so different?
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OU plays zone almost exclusive and at that time they were a lot better at it than what I saw from tOSU last year. I figure that a group of new DBs working together for the first time will not be great in zone coverage, even if the decide to go with it exclusively.

Again, just how do you know this?
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From published statements of the Texas coaches. Also when we had open practices between 1991 and 2005 I went to over half of them. I have a real good idea about the strengths and weaknesses of each QB we have had over the past 15 years and how they compare.
 
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xrayrandy said:
From published statements of the Texas coaches.
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Sorry, no disrespect to your coaches, but they cannot possibly "know" that Snead is "smarter about reading the defenses than Simms, Mock or Young were" until he faces the Texas defense in practice. The best high school defenses pale in comparison to even the worst college defenses.
 
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