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Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

I think an interesting battle in the game will be Texas' execution of the zone read offense against the Buckeye's newer defense. As much as people are probably underestimating the Buck's LB's and secondary for being "new," I think people are feeling the same way about the zone read option for Texas sans Vince Young. However, our new QB's, young as they are, are both exceptional, multi-sport athletes who ran shotgun spread/option offenses in high school, and should not hesitate to tuck it when some green opens up. They may not be elite athletes like Vince, but who is? The point is they don't have to be to be effective.

When Vince ran the zone read, it was like lamb and tuna fish; a perfect match. Ok, bad example. Aside from Vince as the Big Daddy, though, I believe the zone read can be a devestating offense with an athletic quarterback for multiple reasons. Vince was tailor made to run it, but his skill set obviously emphasized the running game part of it. With a more pass friendly QB ( I know Vince led the nation in pass efficency and has a great arm, quick release, etc, but there are plenty other factors of the offense that contributed to that, and his mechanics/production over a 3 year career obviously didn't suggest a pass-first type player) there are so many different sets and routes that can burn a defense, provided the QB is mobile enough to consistenly avoid the rush and make things happen on the ground if need be. In many ways, a pass-first version of it could be even more effective than what we saw from us last year, because it offers so many more options. The run-first mentality is more lamen but conservative and devestating if its working, which it obviously did. No reason to work harder than necessary if you're already ahead of the class. I'm not saying this offense will be anywhere near its potential with these guys after all of 1 career games, but I am saying I dont think we've seen the best of this offensive set, especially with skill guys like Texas, and you shouldn't be suprised if they are able to execute some things that suprise you with a side of the zone read that not a lot of people expected.

The fact that makes it so dangerous is, with a mobile QB, it puts soooo much pressure on a defense to account for not only multiple plays, but from multiple attacks. In one play, you've got to seriously consider that the offense will be able to move the ball individually through either the QB, RB, or recievers. Draws, traps, counters, option attacks, all are available on the ground as part of the RB, quick pass dumps, slants, pump and go's, and draws from the QB sans handoff, then the all incompassing play-action which really sends caution to the wind with roll-outs, dump offs, crossing patterns, every other spread pass attack, etc. It all seems simple in theory to defend: Oh, he either hands it off or he doesn't, thats easy enough, but thats not where the story ends. The offense basically gets to call and stet up a formation audible in the split second it takes to put the ball in the belly of the running back and then pull it out. Thats why I think you'll see more of this offense expand in complexity and scope on the college and NFL level as the athletes become available and coaches see the benefits it provides, devert from the norm and perfect its nuances. However, aside from my long-term theory, which is neither here nor there, the game on Sept 9th should be fun. :)
 
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It's a very dynamic offense. I remember VY taking the ball for a huge run on the first play or two of the game. It really puts a lot of pressure on the ends and the LBs to stay at home, and it confused the hell out of us at first. However, I for one will be very surprised if TX executes plays out of this set anywhere close to as well as last year.
 
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campies -- the number one thing you need(ed) for that zone read to work was an unleashed Vince Young, a 3rd year QB with experience at the helm, and confidence in himself and the surounding cast. It demands very quick, instinctive decision making by the QB, Young had the experience to do just that, and the athletic skills to make the scheme deadly. In 2 or more seasons what you have written may be correct as a description of UT's offense, if they continue to implement a zone read a la 2005.

This year you have a new fellow calling the signals - it is a stretch in my view to confer on any incoming Frosh QB the same decision making capability Young demonstrated last year. Without that comfort level you are likely to see the 'Horns pull in their horns and keep it simple.
 
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that raises the question of durability. vy was one of the very few qb's to try and run on a tOSU defense, be successful, and survive the game intact. well, more or less anyway. im fairly certain carp gave him a concussion in the game. 2 young kids early in the year... not sure how interested i would be in feeding them to an opposing teams lbs. though it would be an easy way to end a qb controversey :P.
 
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Also, do any of my fellow Texans have any info on good message boards or websites to follow high school football in Texas? I have been looking for one but haven't been able to find a good one. I would really like to be able to follow my alma mater this year but have had to rely on the Waco Trib in the past, which doesn't provide me adequate coverage. Thank you in advance.

I used to have a really good one bookmarked. It had a message board for every single district in Texas 3A and above. Also had videos, stats, columnists, recruiting info, you name it. I'll try to find it, I used to like going there once a week or so.
 
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I think an interesting battle in the game will be Texas' execution of the zone read offense against the Buckeye's newer defense. As much as people are probably underestimating the Buck's LB's and secondary for being "new," I think people are feeling the same way about the zone read option for Texas sans Vince Young. However, our new QB's, young as they are, are both exceptional, multi-sport athletes who ran shotgun spread/option offenses in high school, and should not hesitate to tuck it when some green opens up. They may not be elite athletes like Vince, but who is? The point is they don't have to be to be effective.

When Vince ran the zone read, it was like lamb and tuna fish; a perfect match. Ok, bad example. Aside from Vince as the Big Daddy, though, I believe the zone read can be a devestating offense with an athletic quarterback for multiple reasons. Vince was tailor made to run it, but his skill set obviously emphasized the running game part of it. With a more pass friendly QB ( I know Vince led the nation in pass efficency and has a great arm, quick release, etc, but there are plenty other factors of the offense that contributed to that, and his mechanics/production over a 3 year career obviously didn't suggest a pass-first type player) there are so many different sets and routes that can burn a defense, provided the QB is mobile enough to consistenly avoid the rush and make things happen on the ground if need be. In many ways, a pass-first version of it could be even more effective than what we saw from us last year, because it offers so many more options. The run-first mentality is more lamen but conservative and devestating if its working, which it obviously did. No reason to work harder than necessary if you're already ahead of the class. I'm not saying this offense will be anywhere near its potential with these guys after all of 1 career games, but I am saying I dont think we've seen the best of this offensive set, especially with skill guys like Texas, and you shouldn't be suprised if they are able to execute some things that suprise you with a side of the zone read that not a lot of people expected.

The fact that makes it so dangerous is, with a mobile QB, it puts soooo much pressure on a defense to account for not only multiple plays, but from multiple attacks. In one play, you've got to seriously consider that the offense will be able to move the ball individually through either the QB, RB, or recievers. Draws, traps, counters, option attacks, all are available on the ground as part of the RB, quick pass dumps, slants, pump and go's, and draws from the QB sans handoff, then the all incompassing play-action which really sends caution to the wind with roll-outs, dump offs, crossing patterns, every other spread pass attack, etc. It all seems simple in theory to defend: Oh, he either hands it off or he doesn't, thats easy enough, but thats not where the story ends. The offense basically gets to call and stet up a formation audible in the split second it takes to put the ball in the belly of the running back and then pull it out. Thats why I think you'll see more of this offense expand in complexity and scope on the college and NFL level as the athletes become available and coaches see the benefits it provides, devert from the norm and perfect its nuances. However, aside from my long-term theory, which is neither here nor there, the game on Sept 9th should be fun. :)

After that first drive, Texas netted a whopping 55 rushing yards. 57 yards on 5 carries to open the game and 55 yards on 33 carries for the remainder of the game.

As much as Texas fans want to pooh-poo the loss of guys like Scott and Allen, nothing you can say will change the fact that they were ALL AMERICANS. There is a reason Dockery and Hills were back ups and not starters in front of Scott and Allen.

The OSU front 4 did a fairly good job against Texas in this match up last season. It will be interesting to see the matchup between Hills and Lawrence Wilson. I think Wilson may have the advantage in that matchup. The other matchup I like on the line is the OSU DT's with Dockery.

The one matchup that is clearly an advantage to Texas is Blalock and Richardson/Barrow. That said I really believe Texas is going to find that the running yards are just as difficult and as few as they saw last season.


On the other side of things, losing Rod Wright is nothing to whiff over either. Lokey is the only question mark on the line. Multiple preview write ups are saying the same thing buckeye fans have been saying.... this is going to be the best OSU offensive line in the Jim Tressel era. The key to having success against what will arguably be one of the nations best defenses lies in balance. The offense has to maintain balance and keep the defense on its heels a bit. I wouldnt be too surprised if OSU comes out early throwing the ball and moving Smith around giving him a run/pass option on the edges. As the game progresses I would expect to see OSU begin to run the ball more particularly right at the middle of the defense. I think the OSU staff will want to see how Lokey and Killebrew handle being run right at. Both are undersized for the positions they man in the middle of the defense. Additionally Marcus Griffin will be new to the FS spot. While it is true that Michael Griffin is an absolute stud, the middle of the Texas defense might be a bit vuneralbe to being run right at.

Lokey 275, Bobino 230, Marcus Griffin 190. The way to negate speed PARTICULARLY if they are undersized is to run right at them.
 
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