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EngineerHorn
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That "gimmick" talk a few pages back..........
I did not take offense. It's a belly option from the shotgun. If someone can consider Air Force or Navy's offense a gimmick, then I guess ours is too (although they don't use the belly specifically).
But as far as the Tech offense goes, I think it is an equalizer much like a flexbone attack like Navy's. It allows less talented teams to stay in games. Navy is always at or near the top in rushing O. I think if you put 5*'s in Navy's offense, they'd still get beat when they played a defense full of great athletes, otherwise the bone would still be in use. Again 5*'s in Tech's offense would certainly make it better, but I still think a disciplined, well-coached defense with good athletes could stop it 9 times out of 10. By the way, their QB is a 4* and one of their wideouts is a 5* JUCO this year. We'll see how much difference, if any, that makes.
However, one thing will ALWAYS be true about TT, they will consistently have trouble in the red zone. That alone, IMHO, disqualifies them from being a truly "top" offense despite the yardage they put up.
I did not take offense. It's a belly option from the shotgun. If someone can consider Air Force or Navy's offense a gimmick, then I guess ours is too (although they don't use the belly specifically).
But as far as the Tech offense goes, I think it is an equalizer much like a flexbone attack like Navy's. It allows less talented teams to stay in games. Navy is always at or near the top in rushing O. I think if you put 5*'s in Navy's offense, they'd still get beat when they played a defense full of great athletes, otherwise the bone would still be in use. Again 5*'s in Tech's offense would certainly make it better, but I still think a disciplined, well-coached defense with good athletes could stop it 9 times out of 10. By the way, their QB is a 4* and one of their wideouts is a 5* JUCO this year. We'll see how much difference, if any, that makes.
However, one thing will ALWAYS be true about TT, they will consistently have trouble in the red zone. That alone, IMHO, disqualifies them from being a truly "top" offense despite the yardage they put up.
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Lest folks think I don't appreciate HL's participation here, my past point was that this thread grows exponentially at times, and it's surprising that a visiting poster would have so many posts--almost all in two threads--in a relatively short time.
I also hope that he and EngineerHorn hang around after Sep 9th...
I also hope that he and EngineerHorn hang around after Sep 9th...
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SanAntonioBuck
RIP Our Friend and Hero
I've really have enjoyed the UT knowledge, you bring to the thread. So, ditto, stay and hangout with BP.
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txbuckeye1983
We are the innovators, they are the imitators
I thought Quan Cosby, not to be confused with Bill or Quincy Cosby, was the slot receiver when Texas goes three wide.
Quan is a little more frightening than this guy.
In all seriousness, Quan is a great player. I got to see him play a bit when I lived in Texas since Mart is only about a twenty minute drive outside of Waco. Quan did everything for the AA state champions when he was a senior.
Quan is a little more frightening than this guy.
In all seriousness, Quan is a great player. I got to see him play a bit when I lived in Texas since Mart is only about a twenty minute drive outside of Waco. Quan did everything for the AA state champions when he was a senior.
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gregorylee
I'd rather be napping!!
I thought Quan Cosby, not to be confused with Bill or Quincy Cosby, was the slot receiver when Texas goes three wide.
Quan is a little more frightening than this guy.
In all seriousness, Quan is a great player. I got to see him play a bit when I lived in Texas since Mart is only about a twenty minute drive outside of Waco. Quan did everything for the AA state champions when he was a senior.
Is it me, or does his face look crooked?
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funman
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I think the main reason that option football is no longer a staple of top teams is that the QB takes a beating. There are too many big DEs in college ball today. Mission one defending the option is to hit the QB every play. You can't expose your QB like that in the B10. It also hurts when the QB tries to throw and he can't lift his arm above his shoulder because he is bruised and beaten.
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UTMNC
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Hi, I decided to be a dick one too many times and I was finally banned...unfortunately, I did not listen to the numerous warnings I was given nor did I respect the massive amount of patience shown by the moderators of this fine site. I will now retire to my scotch and probably try, unsuccessfully of course, to register various other handles to continue posting here.
UTMNC sleeps with the fishes.
UTMNC sleeps with the fishes.
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xrayrandy
Blowhard Statistician
The way it was left at the end of spring, Quan was Flanker, Pittman was the slot receiver and Sweed was at split end. UT will run 3 wide at least 50% of the time, so that is what you will usually see. Everyone who has reported from practices says that Shipley is the best WR on the team. He plays either flanker or slot. When he eventually starts I expect to see him at flanker. I could see see Sweed, Pittman, Quan and Shipley with 40 or so catches each by the end of the year.
Texas is real good at receiver for the first 6. Nate Jones (23 games 5 starts) really came on in the spring and will be a solid backup at flanker and/or slot. Myron Hardy has created quite a stir as well as Sweeds backup at SE. He is a better athlete than Sweed and has better instincts around the ball. He catches in traffic like basketball player rebounding, placing his back to the defender and blocking out with his elbows. He reminds me of Kwame Cavil that way. He will do well this year in a backup role. When you add in Finley at TE, Texas has a very solid receiving corp.
I expect Texas will stay with roughly a 60:40 run/pass split in terms of plays called (45 run 30 pass or thereabouts). That is what coach Davis does and with those receivers WRs and talented passing QBs, I do not expect Davis will shy away from the passing game. When Benson was a senior in 2004 the coaches fed him the ball a lot. I don't think any one player will get that kind of attention this year.
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After weeding through this gimmick mess, I found a post to agree with. Teams with lesser physical talent have to find ways to give themselves a chance to win. For some, it's option (you can choose to not block certain defenders, making them the "read"), for others, it's spread the field and throw it around. I don't consider those gimmicks. What I consider "gimmicky" is padding stats, both individual and team. Texas has a solid offensive scheme that makes use of its' weapons available. Obviously replacing the QB for UT will be the key. For us, it's piecing together the D. And, that folks, is the beauty of college football. Who's the next Young, the next Hawk? Who will step up and play at that elite level on September 9? It won't be gimmicks, it'll be who establishes themselves physically, offensively and defensively.
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