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Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

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OSU's main formation is a 3 wr singleback set. IMO, OSU's bread and butter (later in the year) was the option pass play. With strong blocking up front, and very speedy wideouts... often the defense had to pick their poison (5+ yds on the ground, or single coverage deep). Texas should be better equipped to stop that play, but it was very effective last year.

I think the QB draws were partially due to Troy audibles. Early in the year, Troy ran/scrambled too often. If his first read was unavailable (after staring at it for a while), he would often take off. He admitted he trusted his feet too much... and as a result Troy had tons of qb draws and pittman did not get enough carries IMO. During the PSU game, he overcompensated and seemed hesitant to scramble.

In the 2nd half of the season, Troy didn't run that many QB draws... which translated to more deep passes and productivity for Pittman. He also was a lot more patient in the pocket, and progressed thru his reads.

www.the-ozone.net/arts1.htm tracks the statistical breakdown by formation, tho you might have to dig a bit to find that old content.
 
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EngineerHorn said:
Yes. According to my step father, my mom correctly guessed two plays in a row during the 2002 Texas-OU game.


Speaking of being able to guess plays....... Is OSU gonna run that speed option out of the 4-wide gun a bunch again? Or that quarterback draw with TS in that weird 4-wide 1 TE shotgun formation?

In fact, outside of our game, I really don't recall specifically what kind of plays and formations OSU was running last year. Anyone care to enlighten me?
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It really depended on the opponent. For the Northwestern game TS had only 12 pass attempts. We just decided to line up in the I (used Dionte Johnson more in that game than any other) and bulldoze their undersized asses. They had one of the worst pass defenses of anyone last year, and TS really could have padded his stats; but Tressel chose to button it up and secure a win heading into Michigan week.

Against scUM, TS had 37 pass attempts. He had 28 against Notre ame. These were his highest attempts for the year. This was all about attacking them where they were weak and we were strong, and to hell with what you're showing on film.

In these games we did line up in the shotgun spread quite a bit, and we even had Troy run a number of keepers, option and otherwise, out of that formation.

To answer your question, i.e. to apply this to the Texas game; expect a wider variety of formations than you would typically see out of an opponent in week 2. That is one of the luxuries of having a 5th year Senior, 3rd year starter at quarterback: you can place an enormous amount of pressure on the defense in terms of preparation and formation/play recognition. Expect Tressel to exploit this advantage to the fullest. It is the most conservative thing to do.

BTW: Sorry EH. The first time I tried to 'quote' your post I accidentally hit 'Edit'. ooooops.
 
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EngineerHorn said:
Yes. According to my step father, my mom correctly guessed two plays in a row during the 2002 Texas-OU game.


Speaking of being able to guess plays....... Is OSU gonna run that speed option out of the 4-wide gun a bunch again? Or that quarterback draw with TS in that weird 4-wide 1 TE shotgun formation?

In fact, outside of our game, I really don't recall specifically what kind of plays and formations OSU was running last year. Anyone care to enlighten me?
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Just as long as they run the "fake option" pass where Troy Smith takes 2 or 3 steps to his right, then drops back a bit. God I love it when he does that.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Just as long as they run the "fake option" pass where Troy Smith takes 2 or 3 steps to his right, then drops back a bit. God I love it when he does that.
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Greatest. Play. Ever.

I might have to look at the video to see just how many times a TD was scored from that play, but I think its well over 50%. Shit, it was 100% against MSU. And they always seem to come after Troy scrambles for a 1st down. In fact, it seems like all big passing plays come after a huge Smith run. Am I the only one to notice this?
 
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Both TD passes to Holmes in the MSU game were off that fake option shuffle:

http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17602

In fact, watching them back-to-back they appear to be the exact same formation and play. I would say that Troy most certainly won't get that much time to throw against Texas though.

Both long TD passes in the Fiesta though were from under center. The one to Ginn was from 3WR set, the one to Holmes was a bunch formation on the right.
 
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EngineerHorn said:
Is that the option pass winslow was talking about?

And who are the 3rd and 4th wide receivers this year?
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yep... troy and pittman run the option to the right. Sometimes Troy stops, steps back, and uncorks a deep pass. It's a thing of beauty.

'Bread and butter' may have been too strong. OSU loves to run that play, but it only gets run a few times a game, at most.

Roy Hall is probably the current #3 WR, not speedy, but a good possession WR who is monstrous (great blocker, had some nice jump balls).

Brian Robiskie & Brian Hartline will be the main competition for Roy, with Dukes, Lyons and Small behind them IMO.
 
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Dryden said:
Both TD passes to Holmes in the MSU game were off that fake option shuffle:

http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17602

In fact, watching them back-to-back they appear to be the exact same formation and play. I would say that Troy most certainly won't get that much time to throw against Texas though.

Both long TD passes in the Fiesta though were from under center. The one to Ginn was from 3WR set, the one to Holmes was a bunch formation on the right.
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I watched TS's TD throws against MSU. He better not lock onto his primary so early in the play against the Horn D, which is what he did. With our DB speed, he will get picked. Also, the rush is almost non-existent. Texas is somewhat better at applying pressure on QB's than poor MSU. Roll outs, bootlegs, fake QB draws, anything to buy time, or to bring the DB's closer to the line will help.
 
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footballfanatic said:
I watched TS's TD throws against MSU. He better not lock onto his primary so early in the play against the Horn D, which is what he did. With our DB speed, he will get picked. Also, the rush is almost non-existent. Texas is somewhat better at applying pressure on QB's than poor MSU. Roll outs, bootlegs, fake QB draws, anything to buy time, or to bring the DB's closer to the line will help.
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good point with our speed the longer plays take to develop more advantage texas. if i was tosu i would try to see if wells can power like lendale white because i garuntee you tosu's offense wont out quick our defense. now as far as the texas offense vs the tosu defense i want our qb to play the game exactly the way matt mauck played in the 2003 sugar bowl vs ou i want them to be a game manager and let the talent and speed around them win the game for them. heres my deal if our offense dosnt turn over we win by about 17 points but if tosu can force turnovers and mistakes it will be similar to last years game except we might not get so lucky. oh and while were at it NO FUMBLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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