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Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

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Irrelevent.[/quote]actually it's FAR from irrelevant. In the NFL, the champion is determined on the field, with playoffs where there is little complaining that a serious super bowl contender was left out the running. In CFB, the champion is determined first in the polls, then on the field... and too often a very deserving team (Auburn, USC, OSU '98) is left out of the title game.

Of course the winner of the BCS title game is considered the champion. But it does make you wonder if the two had nearly equal seasons, if they split the two games.

You keep playing the 'improvement' card, I don't see how that factors into his rationale at all.

Personally, I think UT should get another shot if they are the most deserving team. That being said, if OSU destroys UT 38-17 in september, and then Troy/Ginn get hurt and OSU loses by 7 in january, it would make it interesting.
 
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jwinslow said:
actually it's FAR from irrelevant. In the NFL, the champion is determined on the field,
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You missed the point. My "irrelevent" comment was in response to martinss01's statement, "but this isn't the nfl. there is no playoff system. there are no wildcard teams". If the champion is to be "determined on the field", then rematches should not be looked down upon any more than they are in the pros.
 
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From CFBNews.com:
[FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]3<sup>rd</sup> and Three – Strange (Kille)Brew – Up until the 2005 season, the Longhorns seemed to lack that physical presence, an intimidator on defense who runners wanted to avoid like the plague. For as good as DJ was, he wasn’t a true head-wrecker. But, Robert Killebrew is. The junior doesn’t always turn off the motor, but this might be the first Longhorn in a while who looks to turn a ball carrier inside out. Or, to just knock one out. He’s got an edge to him that the Horns haven’t had in a while. He sometimes can be over-aggressive and run himself out of a play, but as he grew more comfortable with his strongside linebacker spot, the ‘nasty’ was fun to watch. He may not be the highest profile guy on this side of the ball, but he might ultimately be the one guy offenses will have to find and account for throughout the game.

[/SIZE][/SIZE][/FONT]I never understood this... I've seen Derrick Johnson make hits that would knock a boy's teeth right of his helmet. There was this really well done DJ highlight from jcdenton40 and there was an Iowa State hit where he SPEARED the runningback back two yards.

As much as I love AJ Hawk, and who doesn't, I never thought he was a huge hitter. He was more of a smart, fast LB who always made a sure tackle. But I don't remember any AJ haymakers like the ones I saw from DJ.

So why is it that DJ will always be remembered as a drag-down LB as opposed to a head-wrecker? The evidence shows otherwise.
 
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Robert Killebrew is no doubt scarry, but UT actually has 5 other starters on defense who are to be equally feared. Jeremy Campbell had to be told to ease off during the spring game after his first two hits knocked the helmet off the ball carrier. Roddrick Muckelroy will be a household name after Game 2, but the biggest hitter will be Sergio Kindle, Iv'e seen him play in person over a dozen times against the best Texas Highschool football has to offer, long story short, opposing ball carriers better make damn sure where No. 2 is at all times. Throw in Brian Robinson who I think everyone is familiar with, along with M. Griffin, Frank Okam, and Tim Crowder, Aaron Ross, and this unit will be likend to some of the Miami Hurrican defenses of the early 90's. Badass Nasty.
 
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A little overboard there UTMNC. A great defense traditionally has one or two heavy hitters and here you're listing half you're starting lineup. Saying things like, "household name after Game 2" and what not. You've been rational and have made quality posts of late, but your Texas glasses seem a little too orange this morning.
 
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Nice Human Interest Story about UTs likely back-up QB

Seems McCoy has a solid resume as a lifeguard, no matter if he sees the field.
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To the rescue

Texas QB McCoy saves neighbor in emergency

Posted: Thursday June 8, 2006 10:23PM; Updated: Thursday June 8, 2006 10:28PM

GRAHAM, Texas (AP) -- Say this for Texas quarterback Colt McCoy, who's trying to win the starting job this fall: He apparently reacts quickly.
McCoy helped saved a neighbor's life by swimming about 300 yards across a lake and flagging down emergency crews while Ken Herrington had a seizure on his backyard dock, wife Patina Herrington said.
Colt's father Brad McCoy said it was late Memorial Day when his wife heard Patina Herrington yelling for help across the lake. Brad and Colt swam to the other side before Colt raced up a steep, rocky incline to signal for help.
"It was just a true hero story of how everybody came together and saved a life," Patina Herrington said.
Ken Herrington, who has undergone three brain surgeries, stayed in a Fort Worth hospital for a week before returning home Sunday.
Patina Herrington said she'll now root for McCoy, 19, to replace Vince Young as Texas' starting quarterback. McCoy, a redshirt freshman, is battling for the job with freshman Jevan Snead.
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Texas QB McCoy credited with helping save a neighbor's life.

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Texas QB McCoy saves neighbor in emergency

Posted: Thursday June 8, 2006 10:23PM

GRAHAM, Texas (AP) -- Say this for Texas quarterback Colt McCoy, who's trying to win the starting job this fall: He apparently reacts quickly.

McCoy helped saved a neighbor's life by swimming about 300 yards across a lake and flagging down emergency crews while Ken Herrington had a seizure on his backyard dock, wife Patina Herrington said.

Colt's father Brad McCoy said it was late Memorial Day when his wife heard Patina Herrington yelling for help across the lake. Brad and Colt swam to the other side before Colt raced up a steep, rocky incline to signal for help.

"It was just a true hero story of how everybody came together and saved a life," Patina Herrington said.

Ken Herrington, who has undergone three brain surgeries, stayed in a Fort Worth hospital for a week before returning home Sunday.

Patina Herrington said she'll now root for McCoy, 19, to replace Vince Young as Texas' starting quarterback. McCoy, a redshirt freshman, is battling for the job with freshman Jevan Snead.
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Oneshot said:
From CFBNews.com:
[FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]3<sup>rd</sup> and Three – Strange (Kille)Brew – Up until the 2005 season, the Longhorns seemed to lack that physical presence, an intimidator on defense who runners wanted to avoid like the plague. For as good as DJ was, he wasn’t a true head-wrecker. But, Robert Killebrew is. The junior doesn’t always turn off the motor, but this might be the first Longhorn in a while who looks to turn a ball carrier inside out. Or, to just knock one out. He’s got an edge to him that the Horns haven’t had in a while. He sometimes can be over-aggressive and run himself out of a play, but as he grew more comfortable with his strongside linebacker spot, the ‘nasty’ was fun to watch. He may not be the highest profile guy on this side of the ball, but he might ultimately be the one guy offenses will have to find and account for throughout the game.

[/SIZE][/SIZE][/FONT]I never understood this... I've seen Derrick Johnson make hits that would knock a boy's teeth right of his helmet. There was this really well done DJ highlight from jcdenton40 and there was an Iowa State hit where he SPEARED the runningback back two yards.

As much as I love AJ Hawk, and who doesn't, I never thought he was a huge hitter. He was more of a smart, fast LB who always made a sure tackle. But I don't remember any AJ haymakers like the ones I saw from DJ.
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"Big Hitters" are usually known for fully elastic collisions where hitter, ball carrier, and ball all go in different directions. AJ was a master of the inelastic collision, where Hawk, ball carrier and ball all went directly to the ground, do not pass marker, do not collect first down.
 
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"Big Hitters" are usually known for fully elastic collisions where hitter, ball carrier, and ball all go in different directions. AJ was a master of the inelastic collision, where Hawk, ball carrier and ball all went directly to the ground, do not pass marker, do not collect first down.
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As a physicist I must point out that elastic collisions, or something even close to elastic between human bodies is an impossibility. They are all inelastic since not all energy is transferred.

You might try rephrasing it, as that statemenst makes no sense whatsoever.
 
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xrayrandy said:
As a physicist I must point out that elastic collisions, or something even close to elastic between human bodies is an impossibility. They are all inelastic since not all energy is transferred.

You might try rephrasing it, as that statemenst makes no sense whatsoever.
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Everything you say is true, strictly speaking; but that's exactly the problem: speaking strictly.

As you know, collisions between human bodies are no more perfectly inelastic than they are perfectly elastic. Not allowing someone to use the term "elastic collision" for a collision that is surprisingly elastic under the circumstances is to define terms so narrowly that they lose their usefulness for normal conversation.

Not that a physicist and an engineer can have a normal conversation...
 
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