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Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

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The Buckeye nation wont be happy until all UT fans get in total 100% agreement with tOSU analogy that neither Sneed or Colt stands a chance in hell of being able to lead the UT offense. Well sorry, this Horn fan does not and will not agree. The central theme of this thread is can the young UT QB's get it done. As for me I think they can, if that's overly optomistic, too bad. One thing is for sure, Texas is still the defending National Champions, until proven otherwise, and that has not happend yet.
 
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The Buckeye nation wont be happy until all UT fans get in total 100% agreement with tOSU analogy that neither Sneed or Colt stands a chance in hell of being able to lead the UT offense. Well sorry, this Horn fan does not and will not agree. The central theme of this thread is can the young UT QB's get it done. As for me I think they can, if that's overly optomistic, too bad. One thing is for sure, Texas is still the defending National Champions, until proven otherwise, and that has not happend yet.
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Stop being a gigantic fucking baby. Nobody is demanding you bow down and admit that your QBs suck. Jesus H. Tressel.
 
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It's pretty simple, I think even the Texas Aggies can understand this. I said if EITHER teams QB has time to stand back in the pocket and check off 1st, and mabey even 2nd receiver, then they will be successful. Where in the sweet name of Jesus in that analysis do I say tOSU cannot, will not, be able to bullrush our QB, look again, I said IF< IF< IF. Hell we may be out of QB's by halftime.
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Actually, this is what you said earlier...

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All I mean is more people will get to touch the ball, and with the likes of JC I have a very good feeling about that. I think teams will try to bull rush our young QB's which could be a HUGE mistake . We will devour people with quick slants. Jeven and Colt both have quick releases and are accurate. Pray for DB's when J-Finley gets loose, and he will. I feel sorry for the DB"s who will have to chase our 6-7 diffrent lightning fast receivers all day, plus be ready to try to catch a rocket flying out of the backfield. No, it wont be the same as VY, be it will be plenty scarry.
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Now, I'm not going to call this a "got'cha" moment because I know after the long hours of grilling, it gets difficult to keep the stories straight...What you seem to believe, which no one who watches football very closely, usually believes, is that a new QB is going to step in there and efficiently run an offense, the 2nd week of the year, against arguably the top opponent of the year, without making mistakes. Costly mistakes. Even if Texas can run the shit out of the ball, there are still times in real life games where the QB has to make the play on his own. The all world o-line can't do it. The all-world receivers can't do it. The all world TE's can't do it. The all-world coach can't do it. The young man will have to do it on his own...These are the times where tOSU has a huge advantage on defense, no matter how inexperienced you think they are...Hang a ball up for grabs, and any player on the field has the physical ability to go get it...The mistakes will not be physical, but mental, and a mental mistake by a defender is NEARLY NEVER as costly as a QB's...

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UTMNC said:
The Buckeye nation wont be happy until all UT fans get in total 100% agreement with tOSU analogy that neither Sneed or Colt stands a chance in hell of being able to lead the UT offense. Well sorry, this Horn fan does not and will not agree. The central theme of this thread is can the young UT QB's get it done. As for me I think they can, if that's overly optomistic, too bad. One thing is for sure, Texas is still the defending National Champions, until proven otherwise, and that has not happend yet.
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Did you ever see VY play for crying out loud? Do you understand how special of a player he was? I can not believe that as a Buckeye fan, I am questioning a Texas fan about their own friggin player...You are NOT going to replace a talent like that, at the most critical position on the field by the 2nd week, and not miss a beat...PERIOD. Ain't gonna happen...
 
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The Buckeye nation wont be happy until all UT fans get in total 100% agreement with tOSU analogy that neither Sneed or Colt stands a chance in hell of being able to lead the UT offense. Well sorry, this Horn fan does not and will not agree. The central theme of this thread is can the young UT QB's get it done. As for me I think they can, if that's overly optomistic, too bad. One thing is for sure, Texas is still the defending National Champions, until proven otherwise, and that has not happend yet.
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Look, all day... all damn day.. we've been trying to get you to back up your bold assertions with somehting ANYTHING other than whatever is your "gut" Buckeye nation doesn't give a shit what your gut has to say, give us a reason why you think it. THat's all. I don't expect you to agree with me that Ohio State should win this game in Austin. I don't think any Buckeye fan on this board belives that (that you should covert). I don't think EngineerHorn or HL is secretly pulling for Ohio State.. But you know what they DO DO? THey back up what they say with something other than "If a QB gets time he can pick a D apart" and they don't make ignorant predicitons like Zwick will replace Smith by the 3rd Q.

Yeah, Texas is NC right now. You know what being defending Champ in 03 got us? Nothing. If you have a point, it's not a good one.

Now, for the love of Cedric Benson, will you say somehting intelligent? And, btw, I should say, the central theme of this thread isn't "Can the young QB's get it done" it's "Hey, lets talk about this game"
 
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once again, you come thru with overly emotional garbage. I'd love to see these posts backin gup your whines about your QBs having no chance.

an avatar suggestion utmnc:

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I just finished reading both the NIU thread, and this one. It seems that there is an awful lot of crack being smoked these days. There was something like 12 pages of this thread that had more to do with weather and "track speed" than what willl actually be brought to the game. To UT. Your MF'er is fast to be sure. So is our entire D, and unless he can run a sub 3 40, I seriously doubt it will be the difference. More likely, your Greenhorn quarterback (whichever that may be) will be the deciding factor in that game. Even if your QB plays lights out, which is to say, he doesn't fuck up, I would be astonished if you were able to drive the ball on a regular basis. Your D is what will keep you in this game, and if you can stop our offense, then you will have earned the respect of every person in the college football universe.
 
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The Buckeye nation wont be happy until all UT fans get in total 100% agreement with tOSU analogy that neither Sneed or Colt stands a chance in hell of being able to lead the UT offense. Well sorry, this Horn fan does not and will not agree. The central theme of this thread is can the young UT QB's get it done. As for me I think they can, if that's overly optomistic, too bad. One thing is for sure, Texas is still the defending National Champions, until proven otherwise, and that has not happend yet.
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And to add more: I've already said there are very defendable positions that you could take..."Our QB, even though we don't know which one yet, is going to be just fine and run this offense like a veteran" is not a defendable position....That's just not how football works...Why the hell is defensive experience so crucial to your argument, but QB experience isn't? Besides the "gut feeling" that you've already shared...My gut feeling says I may puke soon if I don't hear some analysis of these QB's and why you think they are capable of something 1 or 2 QB's a decade are capable of doing as freshman????
 
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An example, for UTMNC - "I think Colt will be fine against Ohio State because (KEY WORD) in the spring game he showed a poise I had simply never expected out of a freshman. He went on to do (feats A, B and C)"

What you do:

"Colt will be fine because he's a very good passer."

Peyton Manning was a very good passer. How many times did Tenny go undefeated with him at the helm? Especially when he was a Freshman. I'll save you the research, the answer is zero.
 
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Im fairly sure Greg Davis is aware of the fact that tOSU defense is going to lay back their ears and bring everything in the book at whichever QB starts. If while working with Sneed and Colt during the summer and Fall, he can design plays with that in mind(multiple blitzes, ect,ect,) and match thos plays with their skill level, then yes I think whoever the QB is can at least be functional. Sneed or Colt will be OK after practicing against the Texas D everyday, the problem wont be them so much as it will be Greg Davis, if he panicks and starts call too conservative, he's going to get one of them killed.
 
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again, regardless of how good your defense is in practice... they don't want to (nor are permitted to try to) break him in half. Justin Zwick looks great in practice, it's when he is under pressure in the pocket that he struggles.
 
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OK, listen. At least you tried there, but the coach isn't making the decisions or the throws...How 'bout this to start.

What are Colt's strengths? What does he need to work on?
What has he showed regarding decision making in practice? Is he a smart kid?
How's his arm?
What have the coaches been saying?
What have his recievers been saying?

Tell us about the guy. I want to know where this confidence comes from. If Texas was known as a QB factory, I would give some benefit of the doubt here...But from what I've seen, Texas has struggled for a long time to find that guy who can do what the coaches are looking for until Vince Young came along...Help us out...
 
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even if either of your frosh look good in practice its not like the coaches let your defense hit them like we will. Yeah they can simulate defenses all they want but they won't be hitting they quarterbacks like our defense will. Even Young got shook up by our defense. They are going to get hit hard and these aren't highschoolers anymore.
 
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