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Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

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xrayrandy said:
Excuse me if I missed it in the last few pages of mostly forgetable posts, but the UT Freshman class of 2006 arrived and there is an article and pictures up on Mack's site.

http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=40&url_article_id=2098&url_subchannel_id=&change_well_id=2

At this point I don't think these guys will be counted on in our game, but you never know.
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xray - you'll be (un)happy to know that in your absence the mantle of most enthusiastically over-zealous 'Horn fan was wrested from your grasp, then taken to new lows and trashed by someone with the moniker UTMNC. (Which handle always make me think he is best suited to employment in the Canadian Mounties.)
 
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OK, Im back, had to make a quick trip to the E.R. for a pint of blood, cast on the left arm, and stitches under my chin caused by the all out assault on me from all Buckeyes just for giving my opinion on how UT matches up with tOSU(not USC or any other school) at each position. That's OK, Iv'e been in shark infested waters before.

As I was saying concerning Sweed and Pittman. They seemed to do a pretty good job against what was easily the best "D" in the nation, that being tOSU. If your telling me that your not even a little concerned how your 2006 DB's are going to hold up in only the second game, on the road.

Even with a Frsh QB, I would never say Texas is not going to be able to score as much as tOSU.
 
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Umm, UTMNC, if you haven't noticed, you're the one making sweeping statements about who can cover who and the like.

In any event, Pittman and Sweed could have each caught 40 passes for 3,000 in last year's OSU Texas game and it wouldn't have bubkis to do with this season. Am I concerned that Pittman and Sweed might get open, score and all that? Of course. Do I think that they'll simply dominate? No. A WR is only as good as he man getting him the ball, and I have no particular faith in your freshman. I'm sure they won't make fools of themselves, but I'm also sure that they're going to have some jitters and won't be as confident as VY back there.

Can they get open? Sure. Will OSU lock them down play after play after play? Of course not. You know what we call that? Realism. Look in to it.
 
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UTMNC said:
As I was saying concerning Sweed and Pittman. They seemed to do a pretty good job against what was easily the best "D" in the nation, that being tOSU. If your telling me that your not even a little concerned how your 2006 DB's are going to hold up in only the second game, on the road.
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I'll give you Pittman. He had a helluva game, but Sweed had all of three catches for 46 yards in the game, including one memorable one for 24 yards and a touchdown.

I'm not saying Sweed isn't a great receiver, but he didn't dominate anything that day except for one play. If you consider 3 catches for 46 yards and a TD pretty good, then we'll have to agree to disagree. I'd say he had an okay game that included one great catch.
 
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Bucky Katt said:
I'll give you Pittman. He had a helluva game, but Sweed had all of three catches for 46 yards in the game, including one memorable one for 24 yards and a touchdown.

I'm not saying Sweed isn't a great receiver, but he didn't dominate anything that day except for one play. If you consider 3 catches for 46 yards and a TD pretty good, then we'll have to agree to disagree. I'd say he had an okay game that included one great catch.
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An excellent point. But not one that will mean anything to Mr. Optomistic.

Pittman had a 63 yarder, as well. I don't recall the play specifically. In any case, excluding that one, it's hard to say Pittman was some kind of unstoppable force either. (YEs, UTMNC, I am still aware that he outperformed Ginn, relax)
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
An excellent point. But not one that will mean anything to Mr. Optomistic.

Pittman had a 63 yarder, as well. I don't recall the play specifically. In any case, excluding that one, it's hard to say Pittman was some kind of unstoppable force either. (YEs, UTMNC, I am still aware that he outperformed Ginn, relax)
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I think that was the play where Schlegs came flying in for a clean shot on VY, who proceeded to make him look silly then find Pittman, who was chased down around the 5 yard line or so.

I'll concede that BPitt was not a dominant force in the game, but only two players really dominated in that game. And neither will be on the field in 2006.
 
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I agree 100% last year means nothing except for the fact that other than the QB position, Texas returns almost their entire offense having played in more BIG games than tOSU 2006 defense. I know a Tressel coached defense is going to always be prepared, but IMO, a young and untested defense(yes I know some of them have some playing time) on the road, in a HUGE game with Nationlal Title implications, Im sorry, but IMO, that somewhat cancels out any advantage tOSU has on offense even as talented as Troy Smith is. P.S. notice I said somewhat. Yes ALL of you are correct in saying if our QB's can't take the pressure then I agree we don't have much of a chance
 
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What position makes an offense go?

Now..

Name the position that makes a D go....

There isn't 1 position that a D requires each and every snap.

What I'm meaning to say, of course, is not that D isn't important - quite the contrary. What Im saying is, you will have a green Frosh touch the ball every play. If OSU has some newbie LB get burned on a play, he may "get away with it" (as the play went somewhere else) and he'll also have help. If the QB screws up, everyone knows it.
 
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I'm sure if Texas signed em, these QB's have pleanty of potential to be very good QBs. Texas doesn't take Sun Belt talent to play QB. But, and likewise, OSU doesn't take MAC talent to shore up the Defense. These are all big, strong, fast kids. And, while your QBs are talent, I'm sure, there is something different between practice speed and game speed, practice against your own, and playing against a guy who wants to hit you so hard your ass collapses.
 
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Once again, however, the fact that the bulk of Tejas Offense is expierenced will help the QBs greatly. Braylon Edwards bailed out Chad Henne sufficiently that people were talking about how great Henne was as a Frosh. Well, he wasn't that good.

On the D, as his been discussed, we're not talking about replacements who have never seen the field before. Yeah, they're "new" but they also have meaningful game time reps.

"Starting" doesn't mean a whole lot these days.. yeah, some guys - like Hawk - never left the field, but JT and crew rotate pleanty of guys in all year long... and for this very reason... you don't want to replace an outgoing class with a bunch of guys who have no expierence whatever.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Once again, however, the fact that the bulk of Tejas Offense is expierenced will help the QBs greatly. Braylon Edwards bailed out Chad Henne sufficiently that people were talking about how great Henne was as a Frosh. Well, he wasn't that good.

On the D, as his been discussed, we're not talking about replacements who have never seen the field before. Yeah, they're "new" but they also have meaningful game time reps.
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I dont know that I agree with that assement of Henne. Braylon most DEFINATELY made Henne look much better than he probably was as a freshman but in fairness to him, the Michigan line was at best a patchwork line. They really were never healthy until the very end of the season. Henne actually had a pretty good game against us in AA
 
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