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Fred Davis (official thread)

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Davis is on the receiving end of attention

The tight end -- who had a star turn in Washington State game, catching nine passes and helping the Trojans open up their passing game -- has turned setbacks with the team into learning experiences.

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holybuckeye33;941365; said:
To be fair to Fred, when he made that statement we were coming off an 11-2 season in which we only averaged 24.8 points (tied 74th nationally) and 206.1 yards passing (71st nationally) per game (and not returning our quarterback for the next season) whereas USC was fresh of an AP poll national championship, 12-1 season in which they averaged 41.1 points (5th nationally) and 291.6 yards passing (13th nationally) per game (and was returning their heisman hopeful quarterback).

However since that statement, OSU has had the following receivers drafted in the first round of the NFL draft:

Career totals...........Rec...........Yds.......Td
Michael Jenkins.......165...........2,898.....16
Santonio Holmes......140..........2,295......25
Ted Ginn................135..........1,943......15
Anthony Gonzalez.....87...........1,286......13

This isn't counting Gamble who went in the first round as a cb while also playing wr. USC's only first round receiver since the statement...Mike Williams. Fred's career totals, 69 rec; 738 yds; 7 tds. Sometimes karma's just a bitch or maybe Fred just didn't know what he was talking about in the first place?
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Don't forget Drew Carter...
 
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matcar;941262; said:
Curious. Why is that classless? It was an honest assessment of how he felt. He felt the offense was boring. Frankly, at around the time he made those comments, I felt our offense was "offensive".

And his comments about tight end usage are...well pretty much on the money. We don't use the tight end to catch the ball much.
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I never said his comments were incorrect. Heck, if I were turning down Michigan, I'd be thinking "Why would I want to go to Michigan? To lose to Ohio State?" But I'd only be thinking it, not saying it.
 
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OH10;941418; said:
I never said his comments were incorrect. Heck, if I were turning down Michigan, I'd be thinking "Why would I want to go to Michigan? To lose to Ohio State?" But I'd only be thinking it, not saying it.
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Fair enough. We can agree to disagree. I just don't see anything classless about the comment. I may not like what he said because the truth hurt, but I don't see it as classless at all. Frankly, he said far less than most of us did. Oh well, you and I see it differently.
 
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matcar;941427; said:
Fair enough. We can agree to disagree. I just don't see anything classless about the comment. I may not like what he said because the truth hurt, but I don't see it as classless at all. Frankly, he said far less than most of us did. Oh well, you and I see it differently.
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Well, I'll make just one more point, and then move on with the agree to disagree.

I think we can agree on two main things here about the comments. They were true and they were not compliments about the Ohio State University. I would argue that they were, in fact, a diss on the tOSU. Now, I'm sure every recruit that turns down a school can find something negative to say about the runners-up schools. But most of them don't. Why? Because they have class, and they want to show respect to the coaches that have invested a lot of time and energy into convincing that their school is best. Now Fred did not do that - which, in my opinion, did not show class. Thus, the comments were, in fact, "classless."
 
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matcar;941270; said:
We'll all have to agree to disagree then. It might have hurt our feelings to hear it, but I don't see a lack of class in that. I see an honest opinion....that many shared.
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The remark about the offense was an opinion to which some but not all took offense.

Suggesting that Ohio State would "probably take care" of him, offended a lot of people during an era when the Buckeye football program literally was under attack from all sides.

It was a foolish thing said by a kid who thought the world revolved around his wonderfulness. Since then, he has had a bit of an awakening as to his real place in life, gone through a bit of a hard time out in California, and begun to mature. I think most of us wish him well.


But, also would seriously like to see him ply his craft against our defense in the national championship game this year :wink2:


Oh yeah, and before I forget, Ma Tressel uses real lemons!
 
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Steve19;941442; said:
The remark about the offense was an opinion to which some but not all took offense.

Suggesting that Ohio State would "probably take care" of him, offended a lot of people during an era when the Buckeye football program literally was under attack from all sides.

It was a foolish thing said by a kid who thought the world revolved around his wonderfulness. Since then, he has had a bit of an awakening as to his real place in life, gone through a bit of a hard time out in California, and begun to mature. I think most of us wish him well.


But, also would seriously like to see him ply his craft against our defense in the national championship game this year :wink2:


Oh yeah, and before I forget, Ma Tressel uses real lemons!
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Me too. We can hope that we continue to improve and make it there.
 
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OH10;941434; said:
Well, I'll make just one more point, and then move on with the agree to disagree.

I think we can agree on two main things here about the comments. They were true and they were not compliments about the Ohio State University. I would argue that they were, in fact, a diss on the tOSU. Now, I'm sure every recruit that turns down a school can find something negative to say about the runners-up schools. But most of them don't. Why? Because they have class, and they want to show respect to the coaches that have invested a lot of time and energy into convincing that their school is best. Now Fred did not do that - which, in my opinion, did not show class. Thus, the comments were, in fact, "classless."
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Your opinion, sure. but "in fact". Nope.
 
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Buck Nasty;941390; said:
To be fair to our offense. This was before Coach Bollman started playing a lot of NCAA on Playstation. Once Tressel got him the playstation things changed.
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It's cool that the bomb to Robiskie goes for a TD every single time in real life just like on the game, even if Bollman is as predictable as me when I call it.
 
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Article published Saturday, October 20, 2007
Davis' dandy decisions
Rogers grad develops into top-rate USC tight end
By DONALD EMMONS
BLADE SPORTS WRITER

Decisions can make a world of difference in one's life.

Fred Davis has spent the past four years living out this theory.

It started with a decision to choose the University of Southern California over Ohio State to pursue his college football dreams. Voluntarily switching from the wide receiver position to tight end during his freshman season also raised the Toledo native's awareness regarding the significance of one's choices.

Those two choices alone have the USC senior being recognized as a frontrunner for one of college football's top honors. Davis, a 6-foot-4, 250-pounder, heads into USC's meeting today with longtime rival Notre Dame (1-6) as a leading Mackey Award candidate, which annually recognizes the top tight end in college football.
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toledoblade.com -- Davis' dandy decisions
 
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Davis wants Ohio State
By Gary Klein, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
November 29, 2007

USC tight end Fred Davis, an Ohio native, went into last year's game against UCLA confident the Trojans would win their regular-season finale and play Ohio State in the Bowl Championship Series title game.

UCLA dashed Davis' hopes with a 13-9 victory that sent the Trojans to the Rose Bowl against Michigan.

But a potential matchup between eight-ranked USC and Davis' home state Buckeyes once again could be possible.

If USC beats UCLA on Saturday, the Trojans will win their sixth consecutive Pacific 10 Conference title and will play in the Rose Bowl for the third consecutive season.

Ohio State, third in the BCS standings, might be headed to Pasadena if No. 1 Missouri defeats Oklahoma in the Big 12 Conference championship game and No. 2 West Virginia beats Pittsburgh.

"To play Ohio State would be big for me," Davis said Wednesday. "I know the coaches and some of the players. I was hoping it would happen last year, but it didn't work out."

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Toledo-native Davis is top tight end

Jeff Walcoff, Staff Writer
02.21.2008

INDIANAPOLIS, Ind.-- Four years ago, Fred Davis was a highly-rated, blue-chip prospect coming out of Rogers High School in Toledo, Ohio.
In fact, Rivals.com ranked him the 19th-best prospect in the nation and the third-best receiver behind LSU's Early Doucet and Cameron Colvin, who ended up at Oregon.
Now that their college eligibly has been exhausted, Doucet is ranked among the top receivers in the 2008 NFL Draft class. Davis is not.
That's because three years ago, amidst a crowded receivers unit at Southern California that also included future NFL draft picks Dwayne Jarrett and Steve Smith, Davis was moved to tight end.

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