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gbearbuck
Herbie for President
conerback6,
I was intrested in CC while at OU. I went to three meetings... needless to say I was treated like the devil when they found out I was in a fraternity. It was as if I was some type of spy for the Russians. I have many friends in CC (other universities), after I explained how I was treated they were in shock. Because I have friends in CC I know the good it provides. If I didn't know any better I would assume CC was a horible org.
Point is, your cousin was involved with a bad apple... I'm sorry he was treated that way...
Getting involved with campus activities is important. "Frats" are one of many ways to get involved. I don't preach "pro greek", I do suggest students get involved.
Greek life can be pricey... if you don't have the money don't join. To my knowledge the kids are told (at each house) all about the costs.
I have never heard of groups of guys going to bars for the sole purpose of fighting (maybe it's an OSU thing???). I've gone to bars with brothers, I've also gone with non-greek friends. My greek and non-greek friends are diverse (but then again, I'm an odd guy myself :tongue2: ). While in school I had long hair, wore jeans/kakis/cords with a TeeShirt (last time I checked that was the "look" of a college student... didn't realize there was a difference for greek folks)
As a freshman there were two quick ways to meet a bunch of people. Hang out with your dorm mates and meet all their friends, and go greek. Of my friends in highschool I was the only one who went to OU. I wanted to build a new base of friends, and the quicker the better. I hung out with my dorm mates and joined a frat... for whatever reason my non-greek friends didn't understand why I would join a frat (they only knew rummors), and my greek-friends had no problem with me hanging out with non-greeks (because they all had non-greek friends as well)... funny how that works... I was social in highschool, college, and after college. I enjoy being around people... for those that don't care to meet new folks/be social, greek life prob. isn't for you... it is afterall a "social organization."
I know of several guys who got their first job because an older alum put in a good word for them. It isn't going to get you top level jobs... then again top level jobs don't go to 23 year old kids...
My fraternity didn't really haze (or did we???
just joking with ya), other than getting sigs I don't know why there are paddles...
If you are a member of a group and the community knows it you will be lumped into the group... true of any group. If a memeber of CC streaked through college green, it would be assumed all CC members do that... welcome to being part of a group. That's how it works, like it or not.
I'm not a member of the frat you speak of (the lions), my understanding is anything of "high importance" can qualify as painting the lion... a lot of times the girls paint it, just to be a pain in the butt... the guys have to have it painted gold within a certain time period (my understanding)... They don't paint it only based on sex with a virgin (I don't know if that is true or not either... I'd guess that isn't an official reason to paint the lion... just a guess).
I've never seen an excel spreadsheet of who had sex with who... that would take way too much time to figure out... doesn't mean it didn't happen, just means I've never heard of it. (I would guess some sick freak non-greeks might do the same thing...??? I chalk that up to kids being kids, trying to impress each other... ie. stupid).
It sounds like you are getting partial truths/rumors... I wouldn't belive everything you hear...
I was intrested in CC while at OU. I went to three meetings... needless to say I was treated like the devil when they found out I was in a fraternity. It was as if I was some type of spy for the Russians. I have many friends in CC (other universities), after I explained how I was treated they were in shock. Because I have friends in CC I know the good it provides. If I didn't know any better I would assume CC was a horible org.
Point is, your cousin was involved with a bad apple... I'm sorry he was treated that way...
Getting involved with campus activities is important. "Frats" are one of many ways to get involved. I don't preach "pro greek", I do suggest students get involved.
Greek life can be pricey... if you don't have the money don't join. To my knowledge the kids are told (at each house) all about the costs.
I have never heard of groups of guys going to bars for the sole purpose of fighting (maybe it's an OSU thing???). I've gone to bars with brothers, I've also gone with non-greek friends. My greek and non-greek friends are diverse (but then again, I'm an odd guy myself :tongue2: ). While in school I had long hair, wore jeans/kakis/cords with a TeeShirt (last time I checked that was the "look" of a college student... didn't realize there was a difference for greek folks)
As a freshman there were two quick ways to meet a bunch of people. Hang out with your dorm mates and meet all their friends, and go greek. Of my friends in highschool I was the only one who went to OU. I wanted to build a new base of friends, and the quicker the better. I hung out with my dorm mates and joined a frat... for whatever reason my non-greek friends didn't understand why I would join a frat (they only knew rummors), and my greek-friends had no problem with me hanging out with non-greeks (because they all had non-greek friends as well)... funny how that works... I was social in highschool, college, and after college. I enjoy being around people... for those that don't care to meet new folks/be social, greek life prob. isn't for you... it is afterall a "social organization."
I know of several guys who got their first job because an older alum put in a good word for them. It isn't going to get you top level jobs... then again top level jobs don't go to 23 year old kids...
My fraternity didn't really haze (or did we???
just joking with ya), other than getting sigs I don't know why there are paddles...If you are a member of a group and the community knows it you will be lumped into the group... true of any group. If a memeber of CC streaked through college green, it would be assumed all CC members do that... welcome to being part of a group. That's how it works, like it or not.
I'm not a member of the frat you speak of (the lions), my understanding is anything of "high importance" can qualify as painting the lion... a lot of times the girls paint it, just to be a pain in the butt... the guys have to have it painted gold within a certain time period (my understanding)... They don't paint it only based on sex with a virgin (I don't know if that is true or not either... I'd guess that isn't an official reason to paint the lion... just a guess).
I've never seen an excel spreadsheet of who had sex with who... that would take way too much time to figure out... doesn't mean it didn't happen, just means I've never heard of it. (I would guess some sick freak non-greeks might do the same thing...??? I chalk that up to kids being kids, trying to impress each other... ie. stupid).
It sounds like you are getting partial truths/rumors... I wouldn't belive everything you hear...
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daddyphatsacs
Let the cards fall...
ekeen said:
Your background info on me is always amusing. You've got most info right, but I never did live in a trailerpark. I think most on this board have "been to a small town" including you o holy one. :tongue2:
Grad21, I don't think he looks up to Tall Warrior.......he looks up to Big Sexy (who is pretty "new" on the board). RightOn!
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Well- You got one thing right fucko.
First... reading your overly obsessive post caused me to burn my grilled cheese sandwich.. and I'm out of swiss... so I have to make another one with American... that pisses me off already.
Second... you didn't describe one thing... at least other than dumb retarded rumors that any individual could do on their own. Like Gbear said... group association is a wonderfully funny thing.
Anyway, I'm sure no one but the Beta's ever threw a football around in the front yard... what a fucking pathetic asswipe fuck of retarded thing to say... Throwing Footballs?
Who gives a shit?
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I hope you topped that pizza with some Red Savina peppers. They're good for more than just eye-drops.Thump said:
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FKAGobucks877
The Most Power-Drunk
I think the most humorous part of cornerback's post is that he lists all kinds of bullshit that, while it may or may not be true, is the exception to the rule. Then, he keeps saying that there "may be exceptions to this type of behavior". Please....that behavior IS the exception. I tell you truth, it really twists my balls when people pass judgment on a person, thing, issue, or whatever, without actually finding out what it is they are judging. Fraternities have a negative stereotype, but anyone that would actually take the time to investigate would see past it. Give me a fucking break. Yeah, all fraternities are is a fucking social club so I can pay to have friends to help me jump people on the way home from bars. That's just idiocy.
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
You like grilled cheese sandwiches with swiss cheese? SICK!!! I now hate you and anyone else who uses all capital letters in his screen name.AKAKBUCK said:
This is pretty close to the same idiocy of some of the "I hate fraternities" excuses.
And about the "fraternities cost too much money" thing, I don't remember that. From what I remember, room and board in the fraternity house was actually cheaper than living in the dorms. With fraternity dues, it made it the costs about the same.
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Cornerback6
Optimism Lover
Wow, I really did chap you Greekers up pretty bad. I figured if my content was so ridiculously asinine you'd all just ignore it. Well there went that theory.
First things first...thanks to Gbear for a decent and rational breakdown on my novel of a post. You make some great points, and I appreciate your honest and intellectual discourse. Sorry CC treated you like crap, the Greekers here do fine, they just intermingle and kind of ostracize themselves. I would make a safe assumption that you're not the devil. :)
Here...(drum roll please)...is the gem of a post.
I thought I described plenty in my "overly obsessive" post. It did only take me a whopping five minutes to type and I know I only made 15 points, but I suppose I could have elaborated a bit more I guess. Next time I will keep this in the back of my mind. I hate leaving things out.
Group association is a mother isn't it? I realize this and that is exactly why we're having this conversation...because half of the board (probably more) are familiar with the fraternity group's image/rep. and have chimed in on this fun jabbing thread. Some just take a different angle (like posting pictures). I put up a few thoughts & so there's that. Do you really think there would be x amount of guys on here giving you all crap if there wasn't some substance to my argument. I know I'm not completely right. I never will be, BUT...there is weight. Hence the fact that probably 20-50% of college kids can't stand fraternities or "Greek life". 20 is a bit limited, but 50 could be high. Good sized window there.
The Beta football thing I could not leave out because it's a classic. Everyone knows about it, and it's just plain amusing if you let it be what it is. About 5-10 guys throwing the football around with their shirts off in 40 degree weather. It's great. Don't be so upset now. I didn't think my comment was so retarded (as it happens every year)...although, the concept is pretty daft. Just an opinion of course. Smile, it's funny.
Sorry about your sandwich.
Next time, if my post makes absolutely zero sense...holds no water whatsoever, just pass it by. I mean why would you comment on 100% pure senselessness? I know I wouldn't. I mean, that's a waste of time in my book. Easy as that.
First things first...thanks to Gbear for a decent and rational breakdown on my novel of a post. You make some great points, and I appreciate your honest and intellectual discourse. Sorry CC treated you like crap, the Greekers here do fine, they just intermingle and kind of ostracize themselves. I would make a safe assumption that you're not the devil. :)
Here...(drum roll please)...is the gem of a post.
Ok. Now, this post is exactly the type of response I was looking for. Plenty of aggressive language, offensive content...but on the defensive. Good stuff.AKAKBUCK said:
I thought I described plenty in my "overly obsessive" post. It did only take me a whopping five minutes to type and I know I only made 15 points, but I suppose I could have elaborated a bit more I guess. Next time I will keep this in the back of my mind. I hate leaving things out.
Group association is a mother isn't it? I realize this and that is exactly why we're having this conversation...because half of the board (probably more) are familiar with the fraternity group's image/rep. and have chimed in on this fun jabbing thread. Some just take a different angle (like posting pictures). I put up a few thoughts & so there's that. Do you really think there would be x amount of guys on here giving you all crap if there wasn't some substance to my argument. I know I'm not completely right. I never will be, BUT...there is weight. Hence the fact that probably 20-50% of college kids can't stand fraternities or "Greek life". 20 is a bit limited, but 50 could be high. Good sized window there.
The Beta football thing I could not leave out because it's a classic. Everyone knows about it, and it's just plain amusing if you let it be what it is. About 5-10 guys throwing the football around with their shirts off in 40 degree weather. It's great. Don't be so upset now. I didn't think my comment was so retarded (as it happens every year)...although, the concept is pretty daft. Just an opinion of course. Smile, it's funny.
Sorry about your sandwich.
Next time, if my post makes absolutely zero sense...holds no water whatsoever, just pass it by. I mean why would you comment on 100% pure senselessness? I know I wouldn't. I mean, that's a waste of time in my book. Easy as that.
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Alan
Banned
i have to admit that i am utterly amazed at the defensiveness and mother hen attitude regarding frats.....
i was just trying to rile the guys up....
maybe now some will have a better understanding (not pointing anyone out) of how the athletes feel when coach bollman or a player gets singled out and slammed on the boards...
i was just trying to rile the guys up....
maybe now some will have a better understanding (not pointing anyone out) of how the athletes feel when coach bollman or a player gets singled out and slammed on the boards...
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Cornerback6 said:Wow, I really did chap you Greekers up pretty bad. I figured if my content was so ridiculously asinine you'd all just ignore it. Well there went that theory.
First things first...thanks to Gbear for a decent and rational breakdown on my novel of a post. You make some great points, and I appreciate your honest and intellectual discourse. Sorry CC treated you like crap, the Greekers here do fine, they just intermingle and kind of ostracize themselves. I would make a safe assumption that you're not the devil. :)
Here...(drum roll please)...is the gem of a post.
Ok. Now, this post is exactly the type of response I was looking for. Plenty of aggressive language, offensive content...but on the defensive. Good stuff.
I thought I described plenty in my "overly obsessive" post. It did only take me a whopping five minutes to type and I know I only made 15 points, but I suppose I could have elaborated a bit more I guess. Next time I will keep this in the back of my mind. I hate leaving things out.
Group association is a mother isn't it? I realize this and that is exactly why we're having this conversation...because half of the board (probably more) are familiar with the fraternity group's image/rep. and have chimed in on this fun jabbing thread. Some just take a different angle (like posting pictures). I put up a few thoughts & so there's that. Do you really think there would be x amount of guys on here giving you all crap if there wasn't some substance to my argument. I know I'm not completely right. I never will be, BUT...there is weight. Hence the fact that probably 20-50% of college kids can't stand fraternities or "Greek life". 20 is a bit limited, but 50 could be high. Good sized window there.
The Beta football thing I could not leave out because it's a classic. Everyone knows about it, and it's just plain amusing if you let it be what it is. About 5-10 guys throwing the football around with their shirts off in 40 degree weather. It's great. Don't be so upset now. I didn't think my comment was so retarded (as it happens every year)...although, the concept is pretty daft. Just an opinion of course. Smile, it's funny.
Sorry about your sandwich.
Next time, if my post makes absolutely zero sense...holds no water whatsoever, just pass it by. I mean why would you comment on 100% pure senselessness? I know I wouldn't. I mean, that's a waste of time in my book. Easy as that.
I probably should have passed over it... but you want to know what really pissed me off?
This.
Campus Crusade for Christ huh?
Well... I'm sure its a wonderful organization... I really don't know that much about it... to be quite honest, the few people I knew who were a part of it seemed like pretty nice folks... none of them were judgemental cocksuckers like you though... but I really don't have an opinion about YOUR organization (Shit, I figure I can go to church by myself so why join?) I do however have opinions about those who are self righteous enough to judge individuals in organizations without even knowing them... (which you did.. that's the whole point of your little derofatory remarks, isn't it) So... Let's not be condescending to old AKAK for being offensive... just fighting fire with fire... If we're both being assholes that's fine by me...
By the way... thanks for complimenting gbear... he's my fraternity brother so I guess in our little pathetic hive culture I'll share in the receipt of your kind words. (sorry for letting that cat out of the bag gbear)... and he is one of the nicest people you'll ever want to meet. Me? Not so much.
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