Fraternity Members?(Merged)

[BuckeyeNation27]

I've heard this discussion a million times in my life. Everything that has been said here has been said before, and it goes like this:

Non-fraternity members: You're just buying friends and paying to do what a normal college student with average social skills can accomplish on his own.

Fraternity members: There is brotherhood that non-fraternity members can never begin to understand, as well as other positives such as community service and increased GPAs.

For the life of me, I could never understand non-fraternity members' feeling some sort of compelling need to tell fraternity members why they were stupid for ever entering a fraternity. Why not just let them be? You made your decision and they made theirs. Let it go.

frat boy

 

[buckeyeboy]

So that only works one way?

If you look back at the first posts in this thread, you'll notice that no one was defending fraternities or saying how great they were until after post #8, in which someone ripped on fraternity members for buying friends. How original. My point was simply that the title of this thread is "Fraternity Members?" I see nothing there that implies a need for non-fraternity members to engage in fraternity bashing. It's kind of pathetic, IMO. Must be some sort of jealousy thing b/c I don't know why else non-fraternity members think they need to trash fraternity members. And this is coming from a non-fraternity member, I'll add.

 

[Deety]

I lost interest in hanging at the frats in college orientation week of freshman year... the tradition was for all the guys to line up across a main campus thoroughfare with papers from 1-10 printed on them and hold them up as the freshman women walked by. (And no, I didn't stick around to get ranked.) I did attend a parties here and there to be with specific friends, and always enjoyed myself, but the thought of a frat as a noble pursuit kind of went out the window with that stunt. Good and bad like anything else... only a little more so in either direction, as it tends to be organized.

 

[osugrad21]

If you look back at the first posts in this thread, you'll notice that no one was defending fraternities or saying how great they were until after post #8, in which someone ripped on fraternity members for buying friends. How original. My point was simply that the title of this thread is "Fraternity Members?" I see nothing there that implies a need for non-fraternity members to engage in fraternity bashing. It's kind of pathetic, IMO. Must be some sort of jealousy thing b/c I don't know why else non-fraternity members think they need to trash fraternity members. And this is coming from a non-fraternity member, I'll add.

...and all I was asking is if you only see this one way...I could not care less about whether or not someone is in a frat, but to thrw a blanket statement over one side or the other is misguided and quite hypocritical. I guarantee there are frat members who feel the exact same "compelling need" that you describe.

 

[Underdogg44]

Don't know if I should add this or not since the thread went into a smith/zwick debate, but I was a Traditonal Sig Ep (Sigma Phi Epsilon) at Ohio Northern. Best years of my life, and I know my wedding party, minus my best friend I have know since I was 3, and my "little" brother, will all be fraternity brothers.

On one of these pages around 7-8 maybe someone said at smaller schools it is different. And I fully beleive that.

Oh and Incredable sorry about the Phi Kaps gettin the boot. You guys had some good parties.

 

[buckeyeboy]

I guarantee there are frat members who feel the exact same "compelling need" that you describe.

That may be true. I was just pointing out the fact that this thread has denigrated into 14 pages of the same arguments I have always heard when the topic of joining a fraternity/not joining has arisen. Personally, I could care less if every college kid joins a fraternity tomorrow or if they all fail tomorrow due to lack of membership, and I'm surprised that some people care so much that they engage in what I believe are personal attacks on the other side. And from the typical arguments raised by each side, I only see non-fraternity members doing so. But maybe I'm wrong...

 

[jimotis4heisman]

its like anyother thing or pursuit in life, its for some and not for others. some like it some hate it. plus/minus for every thing. its all from each persons view.

ive said it here i dont know how many times
each man's perception is each man's reality

 

[osugrad21]

That may be true. I was just pointing out the fact that this thread has denigrated into 14 pages of the same arguments I have always heard when the topic of joining a fraternity/not joining has arisen. Personally, I could care less if every college kid joins a fraternity tomorrow or if they all fail tomorrow due to lack of membership, and I'm surprised that some people care so much that they engage in what I believe are personal attacks on the other side. And from the typical arguments raised by each side, I only see non-fraternity members doing so. But maybe I'm wrong...

I gotcha...Ive seen bashing from both sides on this site.

 

[Brewtus]

Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether frat boys broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with their female party guests -- they did. But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to all of you -- isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us frat boys, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

 

[redskinbucksfan]

Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether frat boys broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with their female party guests -- they did. But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to all of you -- isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us frat boys, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

Nice

 

[High Lonesome]

Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether frat boys broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with their female party guests -- they did. But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to all of you -- isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us frat boys, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

hahaha, its about time

 

[ScriptOhio]

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

Sounds like a normal Tuesday for me.

 

[JCOSU86]

I lost interest in hanging at the frats in college orientation week of freshman year... the tradition was for all the guys to line up across a main campus thoroughfare with papers from 1-10 printed on them and hold them up as the freshman women walked by. (And no, I didn't stick around to get ranked.) I did attend a parties here and there to be with specific friends, and always enjoyed myself, but the thought of a frat as a noble pursuit kind of went out the window with that stunt. Good and bad like anything else... only a little more so in either direction, as it tends to be organized.

Good thing, because no one thought to bring a paper with "11" printed on it. ;-)

 

[Onebuckfan]

As I commuted to tOSU , I was forced to join GDI. It was a learning experience for sure. It made me stronger.