jimotis4heisman
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or no need to buy a grill. fish flambe.
joking aside it sucks. the fact none of the protocols suck, the entire thing sucks.
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joking aside it sucks. the fact none of the protocols suck, the entire thing sucks.
Nutriaitch
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jimotis4heisman;1700071; said:
well, I can still fish my area right now.
about 50-60 miles East of here is where they closed out all of the fishing.
Hoping they can keep it from creeping West until it's all cleaned (if It's ever cleaned)
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jimotis4heisman
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where are you from again? so i can track this... (generically speaking)
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Gatorubet
Loathing All Things Georgia
Which reminds me......you know anyone with any rice fields that will let me take my son there when/if its snow geese conservation season this fall??
I know the stinking blues and snows go more to the west of the state, but do you have some rice fields that the gese abuse around there??
I know the stinking blues and snows go more to the west of the state, but do you have some rice fields that the gese abuse around there??
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jimotis4heisman
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murderer! killer!
and gator, good look as a member of the plaintiffs bar. may you indemnify your clients....
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Nutriaitch
Retired Super Hero
Gatorubet;1700098; said:
not any rice fields, but the PAC wildlife reserve is like 150 yards (tops) from my house.
Marsh back there is always full of ducks, geese, and everything else.
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Gatorubet
Loathing All Things Georgia
jimotis4heisman;1700102; said:
Do I have a "good look"???? I don't know, your world of "Gold Trumpeter Hart Schaffner & Marx" suits scares me.....a simple cave man.....
But one thing I do know that is as true today as it was 50,000 years ago........British Petroleum owes my client Nutria two bazillion dollars for the loss of his recreational use of the coastline!
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jimotis4heisman
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isnt the econ cap like 75m? or is their a loophole for negligence, crim liab, etc?
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Gatorubet
Loathing All Things Georgia
Sec. 2704. Limits on liability TEXTjimotis4heisman;1700107; said:
They are about to go ex post facto on their ass. Barry wants to raise it (the cap). It would fit with a anti-"big oil boogeyman" schtick, so it has little downside to the general public, and will drive the elephants nuts trying to defend BP and the industry. Bad politics for the GOP if they succeed in getting a vote on it. We'll see how that works. Again, that pesky Constitution and ex post facto thingy.
OTOH, they passed the Super Fund, etc, and laws of that ilk made companies contribute to - and pay for - environmental cleanups that should have been long prescribed and for which they were not previously liable under then existing statutes, so who knows?
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I heard on the radio today that after the Exxon Valdez spill, they only recovered/cleaned up ~10% of the crude that spilled in Prince William Sound. I doubt fishing/shrimping/trawling in a large portion of the coastal waters of LA will ever be the same.
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Well, its a discussion for the PoliForum, but one can only guess how hopping mad conservatives are about the government getting involved in this one.
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jimotis4heisman
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while that makes cute rhetoric, im not sure it is accurate. the no govt loons, on either side of the political spectrum, make up probably 1% or less of the country. for every anti govt lefty whacko environmental terrorist, g20 rioter, etc their is probably a right wing anti govt terrorist (tim mcvey, etc) to match for sure. however, to say that no govt is a widespread view across any major political group is probably categorized as nothing more than a wildly inaccurate statement.
without sending this directly to the poli forum, where im sure it is headed anyways, it is important to look at the govt response to a disaster in federal waters, while the wh seems to be outraged with any comparison to katrina, see fox news vs gibbs yesterday, i think their is a comparison. of course you have to set aside the la states rights issues with katrina that are not present in the oil disaster. but 1-something disastrous happened. 2-plans were in place and were not implemented. 3-inability to respond quickly, efficiently and accurately to the situation. while i have felt that politicizing katirna was a mistake and instead not making it a learning experience, i fear the same issue will occur here. what needs to be done, once this thing is "dealt" with. be that 10 more days, 30 days or 90 days, is a look inside what was done, how it was done, why it was done, and determining how/where/why changes should be made. i for one hope that the right doesnt take the card out of the lefts playbook and make commentary about how obama hates (fill in group) or attempt to place failure on this and it make it a waterloo, etc. that being said the difficulty of the situation has to be weighed with the recent terror attacks in nyc, the floods killing dozens in tenn, etc. its a tough gig. and the approach should be to prevent events like this in the future...
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