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BuckeyeTillIDie;1360281; said:
Yeah, that pissed me off. Since the map is so huge, one would assume they would let you continue to play after the end.
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Yeah, that pissed me off. Since the map is so huge, one would assume they would let you continue to play after the end.
Since the PS3 trophy patch was released, I went ahead and created another game and am playing through a second time. A few tips to speed things along if you're hunting the trophies/achievements:
SPOILERS WARNING! This is optimal for a trophy run on a second play through. I would encourage playing the game as intended the first time through and enjoy the excellence of Fallout 3!
1) Before doing anything you should grab a list of the 20 bobblehead locations. Some of them, such as the ones in Megaton, Vault 101, and Ravens Rock could be lost forever depending on choices you make/your progress in the game.
2) When you Escape Vault 101 at the beginning of the game, change your tag skills to Lockpick, Speech, and Science to maximize your opportunities to get to 50 successful on each. As you level up, max out speech as soon as you can, then science, and lockpick last. If you are about to screw up a lockpick or hack attempt, back out and then try again. You can save a lot of bobbypins on lockpicks this way if you're close to running out. Early in the game, you may want to save upon entering any major locations and speaking to quest-giving NPCs, that way you can retry the speech challenges you fail.
3) Play the game as close to neutral as you can, and don't do anything with the Power of the Atom quest in Megaton. Do not even talk to Burke. At some point early in the game, you should also walk to the Tenpenny Tower location to get it on your map to speed things up with fast travel later, but do not start any quests or engage the Ghouls. This way, at level 7, when you are about 300 XP away from leveling up, you can save your game. Now, go into Megaton, talk to Burke, follow through with blowing up Megaton so that you level up to 8 as evil for the achievement. Then reload from the earlier save, go outside the front gate of Megaton and give Nicky Purified Waters until you're good (should take only three or four), now you can go back in, disarm the bomb to save Megaton for a quick level up to 8 as good for that achievement. Reload from your save again, and on the third time just continue about your game, killing creatures to get the Neutral achievement at level 8. If you don't do anything at either Megaton or Tenpenny Tower, those options will be there for you throughout the game, so you can repeat this at levels 13/14, and 19/20 for those awards. With the locations already open on your map and fast travel, you can hammer out all three using one gamesave in under 30 minutes. Do that for all three and you can knock out all 9 achievements off one play through and without too much extra work. That'll be ALOT faster than playing the complete game three different times.
4) The fastest way through, IMHO, is to do only things essential to the main story up to Little Lamplight/the Finding the Garden of Eden quest. This will open many sections of your map for fast travel later, so the optional quests can be completed much more quickly. You'll also have found The Citadel and will be able to wear Power Armor to make things a bit easier later on with all the side quests. Another benefit, you'll be able to talk to Zimmer in the Rivet City lab and kick off the Replicated Man quest early on, so there is a good chance you can take the easy path out and finish the Replicated Man quest when you find the woman from 'the Railroad' in Grayditch while doing the Those! quest.
SPOILERS WARNING! This is optimal for a trophy run on a second play through. I would encourage playing the game as intended the first time through and enjoy the excellence of Fallout 3!
1) Before doing anything you should grab a list of the 20 bobblehead locations. Some of them, such as the ones in Megaton, Vault 101, and Ravens Rock could be lost forever depending on choices you make/your progress in the game.
2) When you Escape Vault 101 at the beginning of the game, change your tag skills to Lockpick, Speech, and Science to maximize your opportunities to get to 50 successful on each. As you level up, max out speech as soon as you can, then science, and lockpick last. If you are about to screw up a lockpick or hack attempt, back out and then try again. You can save a lot of bobbypins on lockpicks this way if you're close to running out. Early in the game, you may want to save upon entering any major locations and speaking to quest-giving NPCs, that way you can retry the speech challenges you fail.
3) Play the game as close to neutral as you can, and don't do anything with the Power of the Atom quest in Megaton. Do not even talk to Burke. At some point early in the game, you should also walk to the Tenpenny Tower location to get it on your map to speed things up with fast travel later, but do not start any quests or engage the Ghouls. This way, at level 7, when you are about 300 XP away from leveling up, you can save your game. Now, go into Megaton, talk to Burke, follow through with blowing up Megaton so that you level up to 8 as evil for the achievement. Then reload from the earlier save, go outside the front gate of Megaton and give Nicky Purified Waters until you're good (should take only three or four), now you can go back in, disarm the bomb to save Megaton for a quick level up to 8 as good for that achievement. Reload from your save again, and on the third time just continue about your game, killing creatures to get the Neutral achievement at level 8. If you don't do anything at either Megaton or Tenpenny Tower, those options will be there for you throughout the game, so you can repeat this at levels 13/14, and 19/20 for those awards. With the locations already open on your map and fast travel, you can hammer out all three using one gamesave in under 30 minutes. Do that for all three and you can knock out all 9 achievements off one play through and without too much extra work. That'll be ALOT faster than playing the complete game three different times.
4) The fastest way through, IMHO, is to do only things essential to the main story up to Little Lamplight/the Finding the Garden of Eden quest. This will open many sections of your map for fast travel later, so the optional quests can be completed much more quickly. You'll also have found The Citadel and will be able to wear Power Armor to make things a bit easier later on with all the side quests. Another benefit, you'll be able to talk to Zimmer in the Rivet City lab and kick off the Replicated Man quest early on, so there is a good chance you can take the easy path out and finish the Replicated Man quest when you find the woman from 'the Railroad' in Grayditch while doing the Those! quest.
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Got my platinum trophy last night at around 1:30am. I was short on the "Doesn't Play Well With Others" and "Data Miner" achievements, so after everything else was wrapped up, I went to Megaton and went on a killing spree, broke into every building to hack the five or six computers there, then fast travelled to Tenpenny Tower, nuked Megaton, and went on a killing spree at the Tower too, hacking more terminals there. 
Finally done with this game, 100 hours and two months later!
Great game. Terrible ending.
Finally done with this game, 100 hours and two months later!
Great game. Terrible ending.
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CentralMOBuck
Assistant Coach
To bad I had to kill all the slavers. I wonder if they had some kind of achievement if I would have joined them in a game of this?
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ulukinatme
Old Skool
Dryden;1368979; said:
Not sure if you've played the other games before, but they normally have different endings based on your actions. I got one of the "good" endings on my first file, playing through as a bad guy now. Theres supposed to be a bunch of different endings, but essentially I think it just varies one part of the ending to fit what you did for that segment.
That it does. The PC version is the best, if your computer can handle it. If you finished the game as a good guy or bad guy, restart and play the other. If you get bored after that, go online and look for mods for the game. People have already put out a bunch of different mods, anything from customer weapons/armor, houses/bunkers you can store items in, new companions, new looks for old companions, some missions, better hair, keep dogmeat from dying for those that are reckless, all kinds of stuff.
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Yeah, I played the other two games on the PC and finished F3 twice to see two of the ending combinations (once as good without the FEV, once as evil with the FEV), and both endings sucked. The entire style of the ending sucks.ulukinatme;1372062; said:
For 100 hours of play in a story-driven game, the ending, in any combination, is a huge letdown. This game opens with that awesome, protracted dolly shot panning out of the bus, with the Inkspots playing over the radio, then goes into a one-to-two hour introduction to the Fallout universe with all the character creation in first person, with all those fade-to-white flash forwards. It's just a great, great way to dive into the game.
To wrap up this beast with a 45 second slideshow sucked - a complete letdown and cop-out on Bethesda's part. Obviously, the conclusion of the game was the part they scraped to finance Liam Neeson's voice-over work.
There was never any explanation for how Colonel Autumn survived contamination during the first visit to Project Purity either. That sucked too.
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BuckeyeTillIDie
The North Remembers
ulukinatme;1372062; said:
Don't forget the all important "Killable Children" mod
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scott91575
Resident hater
What ticked me off about the ending was freaking Fawkes could have done my job and not die of radiation poisoning. She/he/it simply told me it was my destiny or some crap like that. What? You could do it and not die, or I can do it and die. Nice. That makes no sense to me.
The rest was pretty cheesy and thrown together, and the game being totally over did suck.
The rest was pretty cheesy and thrown together, and the game being totally over did suck.
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Yeah.scott91575;1372431; said:
There needed to be another dialog option at the end.
Hey Fawkes, I could have left you in that fucking cell to rot for the rest of your life too, because it was your destiny, but I didn't do that, did I, you fucking Super Mutant cocksucker?!? Well fine! You know what asshole? I'm going in there, and I've got this here vial of FEV virus that I'm going to inject into the water supply. I hope you have a lifetime's supply of bottled water you fucking fuckface!!!
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BuckeyeTillIDie
The North Remembers
Yeah, that pissed me off about Fawkes acting like she* was too important to die. Fucking bitch. I'm killing her before I make my decision next time.
*I've read that Fawkes is supposed to be a girl.
*I've read that Fawkes is supposed to be a girl.
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BuckeyeTillIDie
The North Remembers
Awesome! This is now a must buy since there are no good games coming out and I just got a larger HDD.
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I'm holding out hope that the PS3 gets all of it on an expansion disc sometime down the road, like the Shivering Isles expansion for Oblivion. Those Operation: Anchorage screenshots just look gorgeous.
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