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Ex-Wolverine BS (all merged - including the tearful goodbyes)

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A second favotrite team? Are you crazy? As a Buckeye my entire life the only second favorite team I have is M*ch*g*n's opponent. I would never willingly root against the buckeyes.

Maybe you just need a little time. I hope that by beat scUM week you will be willing to break through 4" of ice on wednesday night in order to jump into mirror lake to give the team a little bit of luck.

Until them, maybe we can find some psychology majors to give you a little help.
 
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FKAGobucks877: "Question to the mod's: Have you guys banned anyone from this site yet? Because this ex-wolverweenie sure seems like he's just here to stir the pot, and it makes me wonder if someone was banned and is now reappearing with a new moniker."

Yes. Some have been banned. I highly doubt this is the same person, but who knows? Maybe Hubbard or Clarity will check into it. I will move this thread shortly ... it really doesn't belong on this board.

FWIW, this board is populated by DIEHARD Buckeye fans. This place is advanced fandom. Not for the wishy-washy or faint of heart. Ex, if you want to be a Buckeye fan that's great. I wish you the best. I'm not too sure that asking us question about fandom and traditions will help you become a fan. Just go to the games, experience the college life at OSU, soak it in. That's where you'll learn what being a Buckeye is. Hearing some folks on a message board won't accuratly convey the experience. And trust me, hating UM is not the same as loving the Buckeyes. I hope you are indeed a Buckeye fan. It's a great "family" we've got.

So instead of trying to to convice some of us that it's OK for OSU to lose if it hurts Michigan, let's move on. It's enough just to be a fan. If you consider yourself one then great. We all know in our hearts who we root for. We don't all have to be fans in the same degree.

3yards
 
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I don't think this guy is a "true fan" of any athletic team. There is no way you cannot know what it means to be a fan. Even a casual fan has some loyalty in him. What most people that visit message boards and spend quite a bit of time online at their teams various sites are should be defined as a fanatic. Most of us are true die-hard fans. Maybe we should try putting this to him in a way anyone could understand,

UNDER NO CERCUMSTANCE WOULD WE EVER ROOT AGAINST OUR BUCKEYES!

Does that help? We understand the point (if that is what you want to call it) about how much we hate scUM. However, we would not root for an tOSU loss in order to ruin tsun season. We get our shot to ruin their season every year. If we don't take advantage of it, that is our fault. Now stop with the ridiculous farce about you being a buckeye "fan".
 
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Ex, please try and keep your posts/threads on the topic with the board you are posting on. This board is for OSU football. While we are still a small community this doesn't present much of a problem. As we grow and get closer to football season this will become a greater issue. As a courtesy, I usually leave the "Introduction" threads for a while so that the regulars will be sure to see it. A thread about hooded sweatshirts should go in the Open Discussion board. As you work your way around the site I'm sure you'll get a better idea of where certain topics should be posted.

Thanks - 3yards
 
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FKAGobucks877 said:
Question to the mod's: Have you guys banned anyone from this site yet? Because this ex-wolverweenie sure seems like he's just here to stir the pot,
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I'm not here to stir the pot.

But because I don't agree with everything that everyone says, I am treated like crap. Seriously, look at how I have been treated. Right from the start, people were screaming at me, telling me to leave.

And for what?

This is utterly ridiculous. If someone wants to be an OSU fan, let them be a friggin OSU fan. If that means that they root for OSU 11 games a year, fine. If it means they root for OSU 12 games a year, even better. If it means that they root for OSU for 40 years, great. If it means they root for OSU for 4 years, that's fine too.

If it means they wear a red shirt, whatever. If it means they wear a black shirt, that should be fine too.

In all honesty, I am starting to lose my enthusiasm for OSU and the Buckeyes because of this. I find myself hesitating to read this board. I find that instead of thinking about how excited I will be to finally leave the hellhole that is UM for much greener pastures in Columbus, I am wondering if everyone at OSU is going to be like you. Closeminded. Distrustful. Rude.

A few days ago, I told my girlfriend about this place. I told her "they hate UM almost as much as we do...they have a politics board there, and they aren't liberals...the MAJORITY actually seems to be Christian...these people seem really cool, this is such a cool place...I am really looking forward to OSU next fall if this is how everyone there is..." I don't say that to her anymore.

Why?

Because you treat people like crap. You make people jump through hoops to prove themselves to you, and for what? What exactly do you have to gain by giving me a hard time?

If I were here to "stir the pot," why not let me be and give me the benefit of the doubt...give me the rope with which to hang myself?
If I really were here to "stir the pot," wouldn't that become apparent whenever you started talking about how shitty UM is?

You didn't even give me a chance to get situated. You didn't even try to get to know me, you just judge me automatically because I don't fit some BS preconceived notion of what a "Buckeye" is.

Did you ever stop to think that MAYBE you represent the school and the athletic department when you post?

Did you ever think that MAYBE being a complete asshole to someone who is so anxious and eager to be a part of the Buckeye tradition could actually HURT THE SCHOOL?

It's one thing to be passionate about your team. That's fine, admirable to a certain extent. Spend your Saturdays watching your boys, and let your Sundays be heavenly or absolute hell based on whether or not OSU wins or loses. That's fine.

But to talk to someone as if they are complete filth and make baseless accusations about their intentions just because after being a fan of the team FOR A FRIGGIN MONTH they aren't as passionate about your team as you are is ridiculous.

I would have thought OSU fans would be happy to see a UM alum, someone who used to go to the enemy's school become one of their own. I would have thought you would be eager to teach me about OSU traditions.

But the only OSU tradition you have taught me is that because I went to UM and I am not as passionate about your team as you are that you hate me, you will always hate me, you will always reject me, you will always talk to me like I am a piece of shit, and that you want me to go away.

Is that the image you want to project? Is this how I can expect to be treated here? If so, just say it. If that's how it's going to be, just tell me now and I will leave.
 
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sears3820 said:
Well no shit!?

Isn't that par for the course on every college campus not just scUM's?
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Obviously, but given that the average girl, from what I have seen, at OSU is more attractive than the hottest girls at UM, wouldn't that mean that the ugliest pigs...err....girls at the library on a saturday night at UM would be a hell of a lot uglier than the girls in the library at OSU on a saturday night?

I don't think you understand the degree to which people at UofM can be unattractive. To use the word "ugly" to describe the women on any other campus simply cheapens the meaning of the word...
 
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Ex, read all the posts again ... not everyone is treating you like crap. Quite a few are willing to give you a chance. I will agree that most are skeptical. I think this is mostly due to your willingness to continue to root for Michigan athletics. This is compounded by your attempt to convince others why it is OK (and even reasonable) to do so. This is a diverse group, but most could never root for Michigan on any level ... just not the way we are. Many don't "hate" Michigan but actually respect them as a worth opponent. The only point I can see that no one agrees with, is rooting for OSU to lose ... for any reason ... even if it hurts Michigan. That ground has been covered. You know how most people feel. Let's just move on.

There are no hoops to jump through to become a Buckeye fan. If you want to be one ... great. If that's one game, 5, 10, whatever. You will not understand (or agree with) some of the posters on this broard, the reverse is true. We don't all have to agree with one another to be Buckeye fans ... sheesh, just read some of the threads ... quite a few disagreements.

I guess the point is that you can't expect to be immediately accepted by all Buckeye fans. Many of the posters are telling you what it is *for them* to be a Buckeye fan. This doesn't mean that you need to follow the same path. Maybe you will end up as "dyed in the wool" as them in your passions ... maybe not. It really only matters what you feel in your heart. As I said earlier, go to some games, enjoy the OSU college experience, make some friends ... it's the actual interaction with other Buckeyes and our traditions that make Buckeye fans, not just talking to some people on an internet site. So hang out and discuss the Buckeyes. Don't rush the acceptance part, that will come in time. I, for one, think it's great that a UM grad is making the conversion from the "dark side".
 
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Ex, read all the posts again ... not everyone is treating you like crap. Quite a few are willing to give you a chance. I will agree that most are skeptical. I think this is mostly due to your willingness to continue to root for Michigan athletics. This is compounded by your attempt to convince others why it is OK (and even reasonable) to do so. This is a diverse group, but most could never root for Michigan on any level ... just not the way we are. Many don't "hate" Michigan but actually respect them as a worth opponent. The only point I can see that no one agrees with, is rooting for OSU to lose ... for any reason ... even if it hurts Michigan. That ground has been covered. You know how most people feel. Let's just move on.

There are no hoops to jump through to become a Buckeye fan. If you want to be one ... great. If that's one game, 5, 10, whatever. You will not understand (or agree with) some of the posters on this broard, the reverse is true. We don't all have to agree with one another to be Buckeye fans ... sheesh, just read some of the threads ... quite a few disagreements.

I guess the point is that you can't expect to be immediately accepted by all Buckeye fans. Many of the posters are telling you what it is *for them* to be a Buckeye fan. This doesn't mean that you need to follow the same path. Maybe you will end up as "dyed in the wool" as them in your passions ... maybe not. It really only matters what you feel in your heart. As I said earlier, go to some games, enjoy the OSU college experience, make some friends ... it's the actual interaction with other Buckeyes and our traditions that make Buckeye fans, not just talking to some people on an internet site. So hang out and discuss the Buckeyes. Don't rush the acceptance part, that will come in time. I, for one, think it's great that a UM grad is making the conversion from the "dark side".
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That's about the best, most well reasoned post I have ever read on a messageboard.

And I don't really root for UM athletics. In the NIT, I don't watch the games or anything, but if they win it, great. And if there is any way they (or anyone, for that matter) can beat USC in any sport, all the better.
 
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If given a choice between beating Michigan or winning a National Championship, OSU fans would rather beat Michigan.

Not all. While I realize that a loss to Michigan makes winning the national title next to impossible, if I did have that choice and it would come true, I would take a national title. A national title is the goal. Next is winning the conference title. Obviously, The Game is the single most important regular season game, and will always be. But the biggest prize is the national title.

OSU defines themselves as Michigan's rivals.

Wrong. That may be your perception as an up-until-recently Michigan fan, but that is not how we as Buckeye fans define ourselves.

OSU defines their season by whether or not they beat Michigan.

Winning The Game does indeed make the season much more enjoyable, and as mentioned is the single most important regular season game. However, as also mentioned above, it is not the goal.

If OSU were playing an undefeated UToledo team in a BCS bowl, and the only way UToledo could win a National Championship and take it away from USC was to beat OSU, I would root for Toledo.

If so, then you are not a Buckeye fan. Rooting against "your" team to simply spite another team does not make you a true fan of "your" team. A true fan roots for his team, always.
 
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I think this guy is filled up with too much of that fluffy Psychology, it's your mama's fault crap!

There is only on solution to this. :ban:


It is getting beyond the point of entertaining, rather to the point of anoying.

He is merely stiring the pot (messing with us) to stir it. I am sick of it for one.
 
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