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Ex-Wolverine BS (all merged - including the tearful goodbyes)

Muckit!

There are one of two possibilities here. 1) for off-season entertainment, the absurd becomes a post (simply for entertainment value: aka Howard Stern) . 2) An actual Stockholm Syndrome effect. Chances that many a tsun poster view a dim future that lies ahead that last Sat. in November for many a year and are beginning to prepare for the doom, psychologically and electronically! As a pro, I say Muckem, BanEm, and ignore 'em! That damn ESPN commercial still makes me want to thin slice any Bastitch in Blue & Piss!
One cannot enjoy Buckeye Bliss and not Hate, (foamy/frothing kind) MEATCHickin!
Best to all, Disregard my rant.....
GO BUCKS! :smash:
 
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"So you'd rather win a game over your 2nd favorite team and cost them a National Championship, instead giving it to UM, than to see your team lose.

That's fascinating."


If our winning a football game just so happens to also benefit Michigan, then so be it. I would never want Ohio State to lose, to anyone, even if said loss would "punish" Michigan. I love Ohio State more than I hate Michigan. There are few things that make me feel physically sicker than an Ohio State loss in football.
 
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FKAGobucks877 said:
There is nothing hypocritical whatsoever about what I wrote. First, I don't have a "second favorite team". I have a favorite team. I am fanatical about that team, and live and die every Saturday by their on-field performance. Secondly, no matter what happens, I will never, NEVER, EVER, root against tOSU. Frankly, it is impossible. If miSHITgan wins the NC, good for them. I hate them, but there is absolutely no situation, now, or ever, in which I would want my beloved Buckeyes to lose. The fact that you can't understand this tells me and every other true Buckeye fan that you are not, and probably can never be, a true Buckeye. Most likely, every single person that reads this thread agrees with me that there is NEVER a situation in which any of us would root against the Buckeyes. That is because they are true members of the Buckeye Nation, while you are nothing but bitter towards that smelly shithole of an excuse for a school up north. No offense to you, but you simply are not a Buckeye, so you can't, or at least won't, understand.
I would argue that no Buckeye would EVER want UM to win a National Championship under any circumstance.

But, in all honesty, I think the problem here lies in our approach.

OSU fans HATE Michigan.
Michigan fans see OSU as their rivals to the south, and while they want to beat OSU more than anything, they want to win National Championships.

If given a choice between beating Michigan or winning a National Championship, OSU fans would rather beat Michigan.
Michigan fans would rather win the National Championship and lose to OSU.

OSU defines themselves as Michigan's rivals.
Michigan defines themselves as a perrennial national power.

OSU defines their season by whether or not they beat Michigan
Michigan defines their season by whether or not they win the Big Ten.

If OSU were playing an undefeated UToledo team in a BCS bowl, and the only way UToledo could win a National Championship and take it away from USC was to beat OSU, I would root for Toledo.

That's just me.
 
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Well, that is just you, and you proved my point. You aren't a Buckeye, so you might as well stop pretending now.

Also, valiant effort to change the subject. While I believe your latest post is also full of incorrect statements, I won't bother addressing them. The current debate has nothing to do with anything you stated in your post, and you did nothing but prove my point for me.
 
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I don't know Mili. His girlfriend is still a SCummer, so he may very well sprout a woody every time he see's an OSU hottie (since they won't stink like his girlfriend).

For myself, I will continue to refer to a hooded sweatshirt as a hooded sweatshirt. The term "hoodie" seems like it is describing either an infant's attire, or an item in a homo's wardrobe.
 
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I would argue that no Buckeye would EVER want UM to win a National Championship under any circumstance.
Since you are not a Buckeye your argument is hollow.

OSU fans HATE Michigan.
Michigan fans see OSU as their rivals to the south, and while they want to beat OSU more than anything, they want to win National Championships.
Neither team will win a NC without beating the other.

If given a choice between beating Michigan or winning a National Championship, OSU fans would rather beat Michigan.
Michigan fans would rather win the National Championship and lose to OSU.
Neither team will win a NC without beating the other. I would think that anyone who casually follows college football would understand this. So yes, OSU fans want to beat scUM on their way to winning a NC!

OSU defines themselves as Michigan's rivals.
Michigan defines themselves as a perrennial national power.
With statements like this, I begin to think that you are showing your true colors (maize and blue). This is borderline flaming. You do not know how OSU defines themselves!

OSU defines their season by whether or not they beat Michigan
Michigan defines their season by whether or not they win the Big Ten.
Your ignorance runs deep ex. I believe OSU's goal(s) each year are an undefeated season. That produces all things coveted by OSU fans: a win over scUM, a Big 10 Championship, and a NC. Again, even though it is possible to not work this way, but usually to win the Big 10 OSU has to beat scUM and vice versa.

If OSU were playing an undefeated UToledo team in a BCS bowl, and the only way UToledo could win a National Championship and take it away from USC was to beat OSU, I would root for Toledo.
Again, no matter how crazy and unlikely of a hypothetical you can come up with (and the day that an undefeated UToledo is in a BCS bowl game playing for a NC qualifies as such), no one here will ever cheer against the Bucks.
 
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buckiprof said:
Since you are not a Buckeye your argument is hollow.
What gives you the right to tell me what I am and am not?

buckiprof said:
Neither team will win a NC without beating the other. I would think that anyone who casually follows college football would understand this.
Oklahoma lost their last game of the regular season (Big 12 championship game is not regular season, but not bowl season either) and still played in the National Championship game.

Thus, OSU could lose to UM and still win the National Championship.

buckiprof said:
Again, no matter how crazy and unlikely of a hypothetical you can come up with (and the day that an undefeated UToledo is in a BCS bowl game playing for a NC qualifies as such), no one here will ever cheer against the Bucks.
So you'd rather Michigan win a National Championship than to see OSU lose a game to Toledo.

And you say *I'M* not a true Buckeye? Heh.

New question...

You are given a choice. OSU can either beat UM and lose in the National Championship game, or they can lose to UM and win the National Championship.

Which would you prefer?

And just answer the friggin question. Save the mindless personal attacks.
 
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I can say you are not a Buckeye fan because a true Buckeye fan wouldn't ask the stupid hypothticals that you do. Have you read any of the posts on this thread? Have you found one Buckeye fan that said under certain conditions they would cheer for a Buckeye loss? I don't think so!!! Being a Buckeye fan, I know a Buckeye fan when I see one and you Mr. Ex are not one.

I don't give a rat's ass about OK or Nebraska and what they do. If OSU or scUM loses their last game, they will not play in the NC game (under the current BCS format).

And you say *I'M* not a true Buckeye? Heh.
Yes, I am saying that you are not a true Buckeye. Again, have you read any of the posts on this thread? By your retorts, it appears that you haven't.

I want OSU to win every game they play. That means beat scUM and then win the NC game.

Go to an OSU game, see the pageantry, soak in the atmosphere, feel the tradition that is OSU football, witness the passion for the team ex. Then you might have a chance at a true conversion and become a tried and true Buckeye. You will know you have become a tried and true Buckeye the day you look back on this thread and say to yourself, "What the hell was I thinking?". I hope that day comes but I still have some doubts about you and your motives.
 
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This is getting a bit like some Bucknut threads. Ex, you don't fully know OSU fans, so don't claim to know what we covet and what we don't

1. Undefeated Seasons - we would prefer these with a NC but we don't control that "vote". But they give us everything we can attain by our own merit. National Title (usually), Bowl Win, BigTen Championships and win over Michigan

2. National Titles - The next best we can do without an undefeated season. We take these with or without a win over Michigan. As others have pointed out, this never happens. Your point about Oklahoma is a good one ... one which polsters will never let themselves fall into again. This was also the very first year (by AP polls) that at least 1 major college team didn't enter bowl games undefeated. A big change in how polsters/BCS determine who will be national champs.

3. BigTen Titles. Again, we take these with or without a win over Michigan. Again, as others have pointed out, this game almost always factors into the BigTen championship picture. Meaning ... very seldom can you lose this game and still win the BigTen.

4. Beat Michigan ... and everybody else.

Have I covered it? Again, as an Ohio State fan you NEVER root against OSU. Period. You argue the wrong end of an argument. We don't ever wish OSU a loss so that it affects Michigan's season. We root for Michigan to lose if it will prevent them from winning a title. Period. You argue that wishing the worst for Michigan (if that includes OSU losses to achieve that goal) is the equivalent of being a Buckeye fan ... not the case. Wishing the BEST for OSU is being a Buckeye fan. Whatever happens to Michigan happens.
 
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Question to the mod's: Have you guys banned anyone from this site yet? Because this ex-wolverweenie sure seems like he's just here to stir the pot, and it makes me wonder if someone was banned and is now reappearing with a new moniker.

Ex--It's obviously pointless to even argue with you. You cannot relate to true Buckeye fans, and you can't even understand our passion. You, therefore, are not a Buckeye fan.

You ask what gives us the right to tell you what you are or aren't? Nothing, except when it comes to football. I don't want your kind tarnishing the reputation of my beloved football team. You are not a Buckeye. Nobody here thinks you are a Buckeye, and you will never convince anyone that you are a Buckeye. It all comes down to one question: Will you always support the Buckeyes, through thick and think, and root for them in every way possible and help them in any way possible to win every game they play? Every single member of the Buckeye Nation will answer unequivocably "yes". You, however, must answer "no". Thanks for playin'.
 
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