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Duke Blue Devils (that rat faced scumbag)

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Jaxbuck said:
Who defines best person for the job? The administrators or the guy who's done the job?

Seems they should all have some input, no?
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The AD is ultimately making the hire, and it needs to be done from an objective standpoint. They can listen to the outgoing coach, but their opinion should only be one of many candidates thoroughly considered.

The head/former coach is not necessarily operating from the standpoint of what is best for the program anymore when he is out the door, he may just be doing a friend a favor by recommending him, and K is surely biased from being much more familiar with his assistants than other coaches.

I'm sure Duke wasn't very open-minded and objective with their hiring process here, and it stinks for all the coaches who did more to earn the opportunity. Maybe Scheyer knows some damning info and needs his back scratched to protect K's legacy. There by no means should be a fast process to hire whomever the coach thinks they should hire. Surely the track record of former K assistants as HCs in college has not inspired confidence in any of these guys actually being particularly good successors.
 
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DZ83CK said:
The AD is ultimately making the hire, and it needs to be done from an objective standpoint.
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It always comes down to someone's subjective opinion about which candidate is best for a job. It's more art than science. If the AD felt strongly enough about it, they wouldn't let themselves be forced into hiring someone they don't want.

DZ83CK said:
The head/former coach is not necessarily operating from the standpoint of what is best for the program anymore when he is out the door, he may just be doing a friend a favor by recommending him, and K is surely biased from being much more familiar with his assistants than other coaches.

I'm sure Duke wasn't very open-minded and objective with their hiring process here, and it stinks for all the coaches who did more to earn the opportunity. Maybe Scheyer knows some damning info and needs his back scratched to protect K's legacy. There by no means should be a fast process to hire whomever the coach thinks they should hire. Surely the track record of former K assistants as HCs in college has not inspired confidence in any of these guys actually being particularly good successors.
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Easy counterpoint is that maybe Duke AD thinks K's opinion is better input than anyone elses and wants to get the best person for the job so he trusts K.

You clearly think they are biased for some reason. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. It's all subjective.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
It always comes down to someone's subjective opinion about which candidate is best for a job. It's more art than science. If the AD felt strongly enough about it, they wouldn't let themselves be forced into hiring someone they don't want.



Easy counterpoint is that maybe Duke AD thinks K's opinion is better input than anyone elses and wants to get the best person for the job so he trusts K.

You clearly think they are biased for some reason. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. It's all subjective.
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No, pretty sure the Duke AD rushed to hire Scheyer without doing even a semblance of a legitimate coaching search. This is exactly the type of backwards hiring process that needs to be eliminated from widespread usage. Too many times the easy choice is made without giving other qualified people a fair chance.
 
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DZ83CK said:
No, pretty sure the Duke AD rushed to hire Scheyer without doing even a semblance of a legitimate coaching search. This is exactly the type of backwards hiring process that needs to be eliminated from widespread usage. Too many times the easy choice is made without giving other qualified people a fair chance.
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So forward hiring process is some 3rd party telling the person responsible for the hire who they can talk to and who they must hire?

I prefer to leave the decision to those who are responsible for the result.
 
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DZ83CK said:
No, pretty sure the Duke AD rushed to hire Scheyer without doing even a semblance of a legitimate coaching search. This is exactly the type of backwards hiring process that needs to be eliminated from widespread usage. Too many times the easy choice is made without giving other qualified people a fair chance.
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Ehh....if it works out we can continue to hate Dook for being a snooty rich kid school that is good at basketball.

If it fails, we can laugh at them for hiring a hand-picked successor.

either way, who cares?
 
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DZ83CK said:
No, pretty sure the Duke AD rushed to hire Scheyer without doing even a semblance of a legitimate coaching search. This is exactly the type of backwards hiring process that needs to be eliminated from widespread usage. Too many times the easy choice is made without giving other qualified people a fair chance.
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I hate dook more than the next guy, but I think you might be making some pretty big leaps in logic here to assume this. They've known K is gone for quite a while. Why do you assume K doesn't have the best interests of the school in mind? Why would you assume anyone other than the two guys mentor has the best grasp on who is right for the job? Me thinks you are seeing Boogeymen where there may not be any.
 
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BuckeyeSoldier said:
I hate dook more than the next guy, but I think you might be making some pretty big leaps in logic here to assume this. They've known K is gone for quite a while. Why do you assume K doesn't have the best interests of the school in mind? Why would you assume anyone other than the two guys mentor has the best grasp on who is right for the job? Me thinks you are seeing Boogeymen where there may not be any.
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Coach K's job is not to name his successor. He should have stayed in his lane and not influenced the AD to hire his preferred choice, especially because I'm sure K wasn't doing his own unbiased, independent search and looking at all possible candidates. I'm quite sure Scheyer was nowhere remotely close to the most qualified for the job, he only got it because that is what K wanted, and this hire is a slap in the face to a lot of coaches who were more deserving.

There are reports that K actually called Amaker and told him he couldn't get the job because he had been away from Duke for 25 years. That's the kind of BS that this hiring decision was based on. Duke has the right to hire whomever they want, and I have a right to call their coaching search bogus and their hiring decision an unnecessary gamble. I'm not saying Amaker was the best choice, but that their reasoning in hiring Scheyer was unsound in almost every way.
 
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DZ83CK said:
Coach K's job is not to name his successor. He should have stayed in his lane and not influenced the AD to hire his preferred choice, especially because I'm sure K wasn't doing his own unbiased, independent search and looking at all possible candidates. I'm quite sure Scheyer was nowhere remotely close to the most qualified for the job, he only got it because that is what K wanted, and this hire is a slap in the face to a lot of coaches who were more deserving.

There are reports that K actually called Amaker and told him he couldn't get the job because he had been away from Duke for 25 years. That's the kind of BS that this hiring decision was based on. Duke has the right to hire whomever they want, and I have a right to call their coaching search bogus and their hiring decision an unnecessary gamble. I'm not saying Amaker was the best choice, but that their reasoning in hiring Scheyer was unsound in almost every way.
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Duke is free to hire whomever they want and follow whatever process they want to follow. The AD listened to K's advice.. Not sure why anyone would have a problem with the AD listening to the most successful college basketball coach of the last 40 years and wanting to continue the program with the same principles upon which it was built.

Don't recall your panties being bunched when UNC hired Hubert Davis.
 
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