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Duke Blue Devils (that rat faced scumbag)

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Mike Krzyzewski Assures Duke Players That Team Is Ranked 26th

February 15, 2007 | Issue 43?07

CHAPEL HILL, NC - Duke head coach Mike Krzyzewski reassured his slumping basketball team, which fell from the national top-25 rankings for the first time in 11 years following losses to Virginia, Florida State, UNC, and Maryland that they are in fact the very first team to have fallen off the charts. "Don't worry, gentlemen, we're the first team listed once you get past all the those teams there in the poll," Krzyzewski said in a post-practice team meeting at which he unveiled a banner stating the new team philosophy, "Unbeaten In Practice Equals Practically Unbeaten." "Duke is not just another also-ran--we're the top shelf of the second tier of college basketball." Krzyzewski blamed his team's recent fall in the rankings to a combination of unusually even-handed officiating, and "vengeful" opposing teams "running up the score" to a total of one or more points than Duke's.
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Mr. Clutch;770966; said:
At first when I saw that play I thought it was a dirty play and did so after seeing it on replay the next two times. But after the 632nd replay and watching Henderson afterwards, I think that he was visibly upset about what happened.
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That picture is not from the play where Hansbrough got hurt. Looked dirty to me...
 
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i go to duke, and here's my take on it:

hansbrough was going for a big dunk in a show boat effort. he could have just held on to the ball to run the clock out. if we were really still trying to get back in the game, then we would foul him and sent him to the line. rather, hansbrough took it strong to the hole. gerald did not want any of this showboating, and thus he went for the hard foul to send a physical message. it was not a punch or anything premeditated like that. it was just a hard foul for pride. unfortunately, it turned out poorly. i'm sure he would take it back if he could.

i feel that ejection was sort of appropriate because of the hostile environment. but did he really have to be suspended from the acc tourney game? (i'm not sure if it's possible to be ejected but not be suspended a game?)

anyways, that's my take on it. please don't flame me. i love the bucks too. born and raised in cleveland, but this is my school and i love duke as well.
 
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i personally hate duke more than any college bball team on the planet however i dont see this being intentional and i personally dont even think it was purposely a hard foul. the ball was going everywhere in a scuffle and and hansbrough tried what looked to be a shot and henderson just jumped into a pack trying to go for a block, looked away, and nailed hansbrough in the face. i dont think he really should have even been ejected or suspended really. i dont have much of a problem with unc but i strongly dislike hansbrough and his antics. sure you got decked in the face and and then you lay on the court for forever and then decide to get back up and try to make a statement. this whole situation is so blown out of proportion its ridiculous. accidents happen.
 
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OSUNorthCampus;770976; said:
hansbrough was going for a big dunk in a show boat effort.
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watch the video again. there is absolutely no evidence that hansbrough was going up for a "big dunk in a showboat effort." you do know that players jump when they shoot from underneath the basket, don't you? the ball was knocked out of hansbrough's hands about 2 to 3 feet below the rim.
OSUNorthCampus;770976; said:
gerald did not want any of this showboating, and thus he went for the hard foul to send a physical message. it was not a punch or anything premeditated like that.
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if it was indeed a hard foul "to send a physical message," by definition it was premeditated. if it was indeed a hard foul "to send a physical message," ejection from the game was merited, as well as being kept from playing in the upcoming game.
Jeffcat;770978; said:
the ball was going everywhere in a scuffle...
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hansbrough caught the ball after a single tip off a missed free throw. the ball was not "going everywhere in a scuffle." watch the clip.
i dont have much of a problem with unc but i strongly dislike hansbrough and his antics.
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and there we have it. hansbrough has shown emotion from time to time, but he is otherwise a walking saltine cracker.
sure you got decked in the face and and then you lay on the court for forever and then decide to get back up...
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and butch was a pussy for shedding tears after having his forearm ripped from its socket. whatever, doyel. watch the clip. hansbrough was on the ground for 5 or 6 seconds before he got up. if you got hammered on the nose with a flying elbow and blood poured out of your nose, i'm sure it would take you no fewer than 5 seconds to regroup. i was impressed he wasn't on the court longer.
 
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sure i bet hansbrough was going to just lay it in. why take it to the hole in th e first place? you are up, get the rebound, hold it. get fouled, and shoot your free throws. i think he went up because he wanted to dunk it.

as for a hard foul being premeditated, i don't see it that way. i see it as reacting directly to someone who is trying to rub it in your face that we beat you. premeditated would be, "i'm pissed that we're getting owned. next time he goes up, i clock him". that's not the mentality here. gerald said afterwards, "obviously it was a foul, but i didn't mean to hurt him" or something along those lines. it's clear that he knows it was a foul, but it was not meant to hurt him...
 
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OSUNorthCampus;770996; said:
sure i bet hansbrough was going to just lay it in. why take it to the hole in th e first place? you are up, get the rebound, hold it. get fouled, and shoot your free throws. i think he went up because he wanted to dunk it.
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have you actually watched the play? hansbrough was virtually underneath the basket when he was going up with the shot. hansbrough is not even that great of a jumper to dunk the ball without taking a step, especially when there is contact. even if he was going to dunk the ball, it wouldn't have been a showboat dunk. just because a player is dunking the ball does not necessarily mean that he is showboating. it seems that you are just trying to excuse henderson's hard foul. it seems that you are attempting to state that it's worse for a player to dunk the ball than it is for someone to commit a hard, and quite possibly intentional, foul.

if you expect a duke or unc player not to dunk a ball--or even attempt a shot--in that situation, you clearly don't understand rivalries of that magnitude. there is not a single player on either of those teams who wouldn't have attempted a shot just like hansbrough was attempting. i don't have any problem with henderson's attempt at a hard foul. basketball is a contact sport. committing a foul to send a message is a part of the game. however, if you are willing to commit the hard foul, you should be prepared to face the punishment that often comes with committing a hard foul.
 
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OSUNorthCampus;770996; said:
sure i bet hansbrough was going to just lay it in. why take it to the hole in th e first place? you are up, get the rebound, hold it. get fouled, and shoot your free throws. i think he went up because he wanted to dunk it.
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Hansbrough has a vertical of 3 inches. He was going to just barely dunk if anything. Hardly showboating. He was just taking what was there.

as for a hard foul being premeditated, i don't see it that way. i see it as reacting directly to someone who is trying to rub it in your face that we beat you. premeditated would be, "i'm pissed that we're getting owned. next time he goes up, i clock him". that's not the mentality here. gerald said afterwards, "obviously it was a foul, but i didn't mean to hurt him" or something along those lines. it's clear that he knows it was a foul, but it was not meant to hurt him...
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I don't care. If he was going up with the intention of not letting the UNC player "rub it in his face" that would be PREMEDITATED.
 
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His method of scoring is somewhat irrelevant... either way he was rubbing it in. He was determined to score again in a game that was over before his previous foul line trip.
if you expect a duke or unc player not to dunk a ball--or even attempt a shot--in that situation, you clearly don't understand rivalries of that magnitude. there is not a single player on either of those teams who wouldn't have attempted a shot just like hansbrough was attempting. i don't have any problem with henderson's attempt at a hard foul. basketball is a contact sport. committing a foul to send a message is a part of the game. however, if you are willing to commit the hard foul, you should be prepared to face the punishment that often comes with committing a hard foul.
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Agreed.
 
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jwinslow;771005; said:
Agreed.
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heck, i might have done the same thing if i had been in henderson's shoes. i was thrown out of two games in high school. the first time was during a game against tree of life. i went up for a rebound and a christian was all over my back, as they were doing the whole game. the refs had been turning an eye to their fouls the whole game. private school refs are the worst. anyway, i went on my own personal jihad and elbowed the player in the gut as hard as i could. i was quickly ejected; although, i was permitted to sit on the bench.

my father had never been so happy. :evil:

oh, the second time was against fisher catholic.
 
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