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BUCKYLE said:
You poor oppressed white folk. It's a crying shame.
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i know you want your posts to be about race, dub, but all you're pointing out is that there will always be profiteers within a neglected group who profit at the expense of the group. that's not race. that's human nature.

but none of that excuses the actual mistreatment.
 
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OSU_Buckguy said:
i know you want your posts to be about race, dub, but all you're pointing out is that there will always be profiteers within a neglected group who profit at the expense of the group. that's not race. that's human nature.

but none of that excuses the actual mistreatment.
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all I'm saying is that there's a lot of misplaced blame, what was the quote from Malcom X where he said he respects the man that lets me know where I stand rather than the one who pretends he is but is actually the devil? something along those lines
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Don't confuse Buckyle and MaxBuck with the facts...
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You know that's a quote stating an opinion and not a 'fact', correct?

And a quote presented over a half century prior to the Civil Rights movement in the South (which included Sit Ins, Bus Boycotts, etc.) that proved to ultimately lead to mass societal change. But I suppose those blacks should have just accepted their lot and not put their struggles in the public light.

I get Dub's schtick. He thinks if he posts enough videos of the same black guy on youtube and enough out-of-context quotes from famous black pioneers that will mean that blacks have no reason to ever be concerned about racism. It's at least an original (weak, but original) tactic.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
You already provided point #1 of my retort ("necessary a generation ago", actually two generations ago). As for "White Pride", I disagree that it's mainly by Whites who never wanted Blacks to be equal, but rather by Whites who are tired of being labeled for all the world's evils. I do think that many "White Pride" folks go overboard and make the average White person look like a hilljack...
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Many of the folks (both white and black) who lived through the Civil Rights Era are still alive today. Just maybe their prejudices (both white and black) may have rubbed off on their children and their children's children. You know these things happen and that it takes time for some deep-seated hatred (based on centuries of abuse) to go away?
 
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OH10 said:
You know that's a quote stating an opinion and not a 'fact', correct?

And a quote presented over a half century prior to the Civil Rights movement in the South (which included Sit Ins, Bus Boycotts, etc.) that proved to ultimately lead to mass societal change. But I suppose those blacks should have just accepted their lot and not put their struggles in the public light.

I get Dub's schtick. He thinks if he posts enough videos of the same black guy on youtube and enough out-of-context quotes from famous black pioneers that will mean that blacks have no reason to ever be concerned about racism. It's at least an original (weak, but original) tactic.
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If I were black I'd want respected black leaders speaking for me if I couldn't speak for myself and you could bet I wouldn't want to be patronized by some delusional white guilt liberal

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DubCoffman62 said:
all I'm saying is that there's a lot of misplaced blame, what was the quote from Malcom X where he said he respects the man that lets me know where I stand rather than the one who pretends he is but is actually the devil? something along those lines
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Dave Chappelle has a bit that roughly says the same. I don't really care for anecdotes in online discussion, but sincr they've somehow become "evidence" in the BP Poli forums, I'll give it a go.

Being white, and having black friends, I've had a ridiculous amount of experience with the kind of guy Malcolm X wouldn't have respected. I honestly couldn't give an estimate on just how many white dudes have smiled in my friends faces then, because I'm white and wear work boots, start tossing around the"N" word the second my buddies leave the room. I think that's why I get so fired up about it. It's not so much that racism exists, it's that the VAST majority of racists I've met in real life are fucking cowards. They use code words like "thug" when referring to black dudes that don't havr a criminal record. They post shit on FB, pics of prohibition era mobsters that actually killed people, with taglines about how these white criminals are "REAL GANGSTERS, NOW PULL YOUR PANTS UP", as if it's ok to be proud of a white piece of shit because he wore a three piece suit.

I worked construction. Poured walls. In two years, my boss, who is a millionaire, had hired roughly 75 white guys. Not a single one besides me lasted more than a month. We were getting desperate. Our poured wall crew was a foreman and two other guys. Boss says "if anyone knows a guy looking for work that will actually show up and work, let me know asap". I tell him my best friend needs a job. Says bring him in tomorrow. I bring my dude, he busts his ass and everyone on our crew loves him. He saved our asses. A month later, my boss takes me to a non poured wall job. Sitting in the truck at lunch, he forgets I'm one of the four guys in the truck as he tells the guys, "Hey, just so you're all prepared, I accidentally hired a fuckin N*****". Nevermind my boss had fired three white dudes in the three months prior for doing drugs on the job, one of which had actually stolen a lightbulb from a homeowner and used it to smoke meth in the customers bathroom while my buddy didn't do drugs. Never mind that in a year my dude didn't miss a single day of work. Never mind that he worked harder than pretty much every single guy but me. He was a N*****, and after hearing that word about forty times in a year, he left for a lower paying job at a company that fired people for saying shit like "I don't approve of race mixing". Funny part about the dude that told my buddy that (this friend is bi-racial), is that he was the one fired a year earlier for getting caught smoking meth out of the homeowners lightbulb. It may be that racism is becoming less prevalent in national chains and big corporations, but there are an entire field of employment, all across small town USA where being non-white all but guarantees you aren't employable.
 
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