Disgraced Former Penn State DC Jerry Sandusky (convicted child molester)

[sandgk]

I mean, be realistic...

How....why would you even put something like this in the rule book?!?

Well they'd have to slide it in between the prohibition on blood sacrifice and discharging weapons in public (or dorm rooms).


What, those aren't in there either?

 

[Bucky32]

They'll just call it the Jer Clause from now on.

 

[LightningRod]

Probably because they didn't think there would be a situation like this. I'm not surprised there's not much in there.

Not to get too far off track but there is testimony concerning at least one of the boys that offers of walk on status were made by Sandusky. That very well could bring about NCAA sanctions (the 4 year statute of limitations would not be hard to argue against). Put yourself in the shoes of the NCAA - do you really want to go down that road either before or after all criminal and civil matters have been concluded?

 

[sandgk]

They'll just call it the Jer Clause from now on.

No - got to be the We Are Not Ped State clause.

 

[Bucklion]

Is Child Molestation against NCAA rules?

Not officially I imagine, though the NCAA does not deal with crime per se, which is as it should be. If laws are broken, they can take that into account when ruling, but only when ruling on NCAA matters. I mean I get the need that some feel for the NCAA to crack down on the program, but if some Assistant Coach at University Y goes berzerko and mows down 15 or 20 with an uzi, is that an NCAA matter? Is it an NCAA matter if another Assistant had heard he might do it but didn't take it seriously? I don't think the NCAA should get involved where they shouldn't be. If anything, they might hinder the legal investigation unintentionally, and that would be tragic. Law enforcement is trained specifically in dealing with these matters, especially when there are so many living victims and some of them are minors...let's leave it to them I think.

 

[alexhortdog95]

Not to get too far off track but there is testimony concerning at least one of the boys that offers of walk on status were made by Sandusky. That very well could bring about NCAA sanctions (the 4 year statute of limitations would not be hard to argue against). Put yourself in the shoes of the NCAA - do you really want to go down that road either before or after all criminal and civil matters have been concluded?

Was that while he was employed at the school?

 

[Bucklion]

Not to get too far off track but there is testimony concerning at least one of the boys that offers of walk on status were made by Sandusky. That very well could bring about NCAA sanctions (the 4 year statute of limitations would not be hard to argue against). Put yourself in the shoes of the NCAA - do you really want to go down that road either before or after all criminal and civil matters have been concluded?

If that's true and it was while he was employed by the University (and as an emeritus I think you could make the argument he was throughout) then that would be recruiting, which could be an official NCAA matter. I still stand by though that they should stay the fuck out until the police are finished...all the info they would likely need will be in all of their reports and all the testimony when all is said and done anyway.

 

[sandgk]

Was that while he was employed at the school?

That kind of works out badly either way.

If it happened while Sandusky was on the coaching staff then you have a direct linkage.

If it happened after he was merely a professor emeritus of physical education then he is in a special class of booster - one with extraordinary access to the pgroam's facilities.

 

[LightningRod]

Was that while he was employed at the school?

The testimony involves victim 4. The behavior started in 1996 or 1997 which means Sandusky was still on the coaching staff. The narrative starts on page 14. The walk-on offer is at the bottom of page 15.

 

[Mac]

I mean, be realistic...

How....why would you even put something like this in the rule book?!?

I am being realistic. I'm agreeing with you.

 

[Mac]

Not to get too far off track but there is testimony concerning at least one of the boys that offers of walk on status were made by Sandusky. That very well could bring about NCAA sanctions (the 4 year statute of limitations would not be hard to argue against). Put yourself in the shoes of the NCAA - do you really want to go down that road either before or after all criminal and civil matters have been concluded?

Obviously you don't do anything until the authorities finish their investigation. I already stated that. Either way, this situation shouldn't be at this point. And its a damn shame because a lot/most of the victims wouldn't be in this situation if people took care of business like human beings

 

[Muck]

But still. Paterno has to go. Tonight.

This 1000x this.

 

[Jaxbuck]

I'd hate to see the players, who can also be considered to have been betrayed by coaches they trusted, damaged in this. I've already mentioned it, but will repeat - players ought to be allowed to get out of that dysfunctional situation asap without having to sit out a year somewhere else as punishment for transferring. Parents and players should not have to decide between getting out of a horrible atmosphere and continuing their career progression on schedule.

I am up in Philly now and the local guys said the players gave Joe a standing ovation after his announcement to the team.

sigh...when they get older and have kids they'll understand....I hope.

 

[Gatorubet]

Woody Hayes (who's name should be on the Big Ten trophy IMO) stood as a pillar of the Ohio State campus and Columbus community for decades. We all know why he was fired. But what's important is how. Immediately. No last season, no last game. Just out.

Well.....it helps that it was the last game of the season.

(I agree with the central point that the response was immediate and decisive, all despite his level of power and prestige being the same as JoPa at his institution. )

 

[Bucklion]

I am up in Philly now and the local guys said the players gave Joe a standing ovation after his announcement to the team.

sigh...when they get older and have kids they'll understand....I hope.

Eh, I'm willing to cut them a little slack. They're college kids and football players caught up in a colossal mess not of their own doing, likely don't know all the specific details, and Joe hasn't been accused of any crimes against children himself. They just see their coach getting ripped to shreds by pretty much everyone when he likely has been in front of them saying "I assure you I would have done more if I could have" or some such nonsense. I mean think about it, one day you are playing for a guy many look at as the righteous grandfather on the college football landscape, and literally the very next day virtually all of those same people have gone 180 and demand he be fired. It's a lot to take in for them in that situation, I would imagine.