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Disgraced Former Penn State DC Jerry Sandusky (convicted child molester)

AJHawkfan;2030526; said:
Just a thought, but for those of you wondering about possible NCAA sanctions, seeing as how these heinous crimes took place within the walls of the PSU football facility, could they not be hit with Lack of Institutional Control?

It's just a suspicion, but the PSU BoT might just preemptively do all the damage that the NCAA could inflict after a lengthy LOIC investigation. It seems that the President, Athletic administration and football staffs could almost certainly be gone, and who knows what they will self-impose as the details unfold...

...that being said, what exactly are the NCAA rules against not reporting an ass-raping committed by a former employee (emeritus) in a lockeroom? Hopefully more stringent than selling your son for $180k.
 
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AJHawkfan;2030526; said:
Just a thought, but for those of you wondering about possible NCAA sanctions, seeing as how these heinous crimes took place within the walls of the PSU football facility, could they not be hit with Lack of Institutional Control? I mean, if they can't control what goes on inside their own facility, what CAN they control?

No. Under that logic, any University could get hit with LOIC if anyone affiliated with the university committed a crime on campus. This is a criminal matter not involving the amateur status of student athletes.
 
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AJHawkfan;2030526; said:
Just a thought, but for those of you wondering about possible NCAA sanctions, seeing as how these heinous crimes took place within the walls of the PSU football facility, could they not be hit with Lack of Institutional Control? I mean, if they can't control what goes on inside their own facility, what CAN they control?

I stated this one earlier. I am convinced that the NCAA will do something as well.

The only thing that could save them, IMHO, at this point from the NCAA would be the fact that these weren't actual students at PSU. But since this happened on school grounds, and was witnessed by a then (and current) member of the staff at the time, they had more than a moral obligation to report this above what was reported.

Linkie: http://pittsburgh.sbnation.com/2011...ke-mcqueary-was-graduate-assistant-penn-state



Jerry Sandusky Investigation: Mike McQueary Was Graduate Assistant Witness, According To Report

Nov 06 3:19p by Charlie Wilmoth
A new report identifies the 28-year-old graduate assistant who tried to blow the whistle on Jerry Sandusky as current Penn State assistant coach and former PSU quarterback Mike McQueary.
 
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Bucky32;2030527; said:
If that was JoePa's grandson being sexually abused, do you really think he would've simply dumped it off to his superior and forget about, as he did? How can you KNOW that Sandusky committed the act and allow that monster to continue to be a presence on the PSU campus as late as LAST WEEK?
He was Joe Pa's good friend, if someone told me my best friend was a child molester I'd call Bullshit and not believe them. He reported it to his boss and the boss didn't act on it, so Joe Pa figured he was innocent, which was what he wanted to believe to begin with.
 
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AJHawkfan;2030526; said:
Just a thought, but for those of you wondering about possible NCAA sanctions, seeing as how these heinous crimes took place within the walls of the PSU football facility, could they not be hit with Lack of Institutional Control? I mean, if they can't control what goes on inside their own facility, what CAN they control?

I understand what you're saying but the NCAA enforces its rules (presumably). What rule is broken here?

It's a legal issue, and potentially a big one, but not an NCAA one.
 
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Woody1968;2030531; said:
No. Under that logic, any University could get hit with LOIC if anyone affiliated with the university committed a crime on campus. This is a criminal matter not involving the amateur status of student athletes.

I would agree with you - if this were an isolated incident. This was a pattern of behavior that spanned more than a decade. PSU officers knew about the behavior and failed to do anything to stop it.
 
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Bucky32;2030522; said:
To be sure, there's a certain place in hell for Sandusky. But I'm not convinced he who sees such an act and essentially does nothing is much better.

Certainly no argument here! Not at all suggesting that there aren't a whole mess of people that need an axe at Penn State. But, it seems like Joe Pa is getting a lot of attention simply because he is still the HC and employeed at PSU. In my mind, this isn't about football any more. This goes far beyond Joe Pa, Penn State, and the sport of football. This is messed up shit and needs to be taken VERY seriously by the proper authorities. Joe Pa's little Happy Valley empire is about to be squashed like an ant. Sandusky is about to be turned into a punching bag for a 35 year old inmate. One year from now, he will wish he was dead.
 
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Forget the NCAA. For how many years are people going to see this and think "Pedophile State University?"

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10 years? 20 years? The damage is done. Graduates are crying on national TV and heading over to university property just to burn their diplomas. Anything the NCAA could levy is inconsequential compared to how worthless that logo appears to be right at this moment.
 
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Jake;2030536; said:
I understand what you're saying but the NCAA enforces its rules (presumably). What rule is broken here?

It's a legal issue, and potentially a big one, but not an NCAA one.

I don't have the rulebook memorized, but it seems to me that sodomy with a 10-year old boy in a shower should be against the rules for NCAA coaches. I don't know... maybe I'm wrong.

Or has the event passed the statutes of limitations, so the NCAA can't react? Also seems to me that the statutes of limitations on this type of event should be longer than 12 years... again, maybe I'm wrong...
 
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And it isn't just Paterno who should be admonished for this. Anyone who saw or heard about this is guilty of not reporting it. Paterno is under the microscope because he was one of the few who had the power to keep Sandusky off campus and/or put him into jail and did not do it.
 
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LightningRod;2030545; said:
How about if somebody told Joe that he just witnessed his best friend [censored]ing a 10 year old boy in the ass in the football showers. Would that grab your attention?

Maybe you wouldn't have to BELIEVE it, but it should interest you enough to sit down with both of the guys involved and get to the bottom of what the hell was going on; since you know, both of them work for you........ I know if I were the head coach, and was in this position, someone would be getting fired at the end of that discussion........
 
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BB73;2030214; said:
Even without his bad mistakes since Saturday, the BoT has to realize that they need to clean house by removing the President, the AD, the VP, JoePa, and any of JoePa's assistants that have been around for more than a couple of years, including McQueary.

While it sounds like he was an adult eyewitness that did the bare minimum in reporting up the chain of command, if I were PSU's attorney I would advise caution when it comes to firing the guy that could be seen as the whistle blower in this mess.
 
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Can you imagine being the next recruiting coordinator for PSU? Can you imagine looking at a high school boy and his father and trying to convince them to play football at Penn State?

No matter what happens from here on out, Penn State as we all knew it is done.
 
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