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Disgraced Former Penn State DC Jerry Sandusky (convicted child molester)

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ORD_Buckeye;2168949; said:
This Obliviax guy, who is just this side of openly rooting for an acquittal, has a picture of a five year old girls' bicycle as his signature photo.

That board is self-trolling.
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Hell the fact that he uses an obscure D&D monster for his nom de msg board should be warning enough.
 
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Pedobear to make a statement before verdict is reached:

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Soap opera comparison in Sandusky trial adds insult to tragedy

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So we asked some experienced coaches if it was normal here, in Illinois.
"That type of thing is not part of any culture or system I've been in in high school or college or as a coach," said Brett Detering, 1st vice president of the Illinois High School Football Coaches Association. "There are separate facilities for coaches and students."

Detering is the head coach at Anna-Jonesboro High School in southern Illinois. He played football in high school and in college, and he's been coaching for 17 years. And he doesn't take showers with his players. He's never taken showers with his players.

"I don't think that's a regular occurrence anywhere," he said. "It's typical lawyering, grasping at straws."

When I was a high school football player eons ago, our coaches were good guys, great coaches, but very old school. We hit hard every day in practice. They didn't give us water to drink. Instead, they gave us salt pills. Water was for showering.

"Get in the shower," the coaches said the first day. "And use soap."

But they never showered with us. Ever. My brothers were athletes, too, and they never saw it. None of our friends showered with coaches. Ever. And guys I talked to at work Tuesday said their coaches never showered with them either.

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LightningRod;2168893; said:
Pennlive update: 11:48 a.m.: The defense has rested its case.
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I have no experience with being in court or juries or anything like that. Does the jury go hide and vote at 11:48? Or do they wait until tomorrow to start that?

In movies or TV shows they might say that the jury is deliberating a long time - that's a good/bad sign for the defense. Would a "long" deliberation be good for Sandusky? How long is "long"?
 
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Zurp;2168980; said:
I have no experience with being in court or juries or anything like that. Does the jury go hide and vote at 11:48? Or do they wait until tomorrow to start that?

In movies or TV shows they might say that the jury is deliberating a long time - that's a good/bad sign for the defense. Would a "long" deliberation be good for Sandusky? How long is "long"?
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Closing arguments will be made first by the prosecutor, then the defense, and followed by prosecutor rebuttal. The judge next instructs the jury on the law applicable to the issues before the court that the jury will be deciding. This judge has ordered the jury be sequestered during the deliberations meaning the jurors will be housed by the court with no access to outside information until a decision is reached on all counts. The jurors will first pick a foreperson and then start the process of reviewing the evidence and expressing his/her view of the issues. Eventually the jurors will reach a verdict or notify the court that they cannot agree on a verdict of some or all of the charges. As for the length of time for deliberations and who is favored, there is no sure way of predicting which party benefits.
 
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LightningRod;2168995; said:
Closing arguments will be made first by the prosecutor, then the defense, and followed by prosecutor rebuttal. The judge next instructs the jury on the law applicable to the issues before the court that the jury will be deciding. This judge has ordered the jury be sequestered during the deliberations meaning the jurors will be housed by the court with no access to outside information until a decision is reached on all counts. The jurors will first pick a foreperson and then start the process of reviewing the evidence and expressing his/her view of the issues. Eventually the jurors will reach a verdict or notify the court that they cannot agree on a verdict of some or all of the charges. As for the length of time for deliberations and who is favored, there is no sure way of predicting which party benefits.
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I have never served on a criminal jury so I guess my question is why it is the first vote taken. Can it be taken before they even discuss the evidence or will they wait and how often is a vote taken. Thanks.
 
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Zurp;2168980; said:
I have no experience with being in court or juries or anything like that. Does the jury go hide and vote at 11:48? Or do they wait until tomorrow to start that?

In movies or TV shows they might say that the jury is deliberating a long time - that's a good/bad sign for the defense. Would a "long" deliberation be good for Sandusky? How long is "long"?
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The longer deliberations are usually good for the defense because that means there are members of the jury that harbor some doubt. But in a case like this, with multiple charges and multiple victims, the jury will be deliberating quite a while either way.

The Casey Anthony verdict was, to that extent, quite stunning because the jury came back Not Guilty so quickly after such a lengthy trial. I actually thought they got it right but there was no way to fairly deliberate 33 days worth of testimony in the amount of time it took them.
 
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LitlBuck;2169002; said:
I have never served on a criminal jury so I guess my question is why it is the first vote taken. Can it be taken before they even discuss the evidence or will they wait and how often is a vote taken. Thanks.
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Depends on the makeup of the jury and the foreman. I personally think it is a bad idea to vote before discussing the evidence. Once a person has reached an opinion, it is very difficult for them to change their minds.
 
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LitlBuck;2169002; said:
I have never served on a criminal jury so I guess my question is why it is the first vote taken. Can it be taken before they even discuss the evidence or will they wait and how often is a vote taken. Thanks.
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Here is a LINK to A Juror's Guide to Jury Duty in Beaver County, PA. I am not in PA but I would expect that this juror guide is similar to the practices in Centre County. Jury Deliberations:

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Jury Deliberations[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The judge explains the law relevant to the case and provides guidance on procedures to be followed in jury deliberations. One of the first things the jury does during deliberations is to choose a foreperson. The foreperson should make sure each juror has a chance to speak; that each juror?s opinion is treated with respect; that the jury does not rush to come to a verdict; that jurors carefully listen to one another; and that they return a fair and impartial verdict based upon the facts of the case.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In criminal cases, the jury?s verdict must be unanimous. In civil cases, 5/6 of the jurors must be in agreement to return a verdict. [/FONT]
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The foreperson decides when to cut off debate and order a vote keeping in mind that each juror is provided an opportunity to be heard on the issue.

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What is the deliberation process?

The judge explains the law and provides guidance on procedures to be followed in jury deliberations. One of the first things the jury does during deliberations is to choose a foreperson. The foreperson should make sure each juror has a chance to speak; each juror's opinion is treated with respect; the jury does not rush to a verdict; jurors carefully listen to one another; and they return a fair and impartial verdict based upon the facts of the case.
In criminal cases, a unanimous verdict is required to find the defendant guilty. In civil cases, it is a five-sixths vote of the jury.
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buxfan4life;2168836; said:
If Sandusky gets what he deserves (a guilty verdict) I hope they interview this woman again and ask her if she still wants to defend this monster and see what she has to say. I am also very disappointed that none of the press have asked this woman if it would be alright for Jerry to shower naked with her (allegedly) 14 kids.

What is really disturbing me about this whole thing is the other coaches testimonies about showering naked with young kids at the YMCA and other places. I don't go to the Y, but have been to many waterparks where showers are provided in the bathroom areas, and I always see parents and their kids showering with their bathing suits on, not naked. I have also never witnessed "soap battles" or "naked tickle monster" during these times. These people defending this POS are seriously some fucked up individuals.
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i think it is becoming increasingly obvious that the culture in Nappy Valley is VERY Greek. the whole place is full of fucking perverts.
 
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