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Disgraced Former Penn State DC Jerry Sandusky (convicted child molester)

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Calling them subhuman mutant pigs actually trivializes both Sandusky's abominable behavior and the defense of his abominable behavior by the sycophants. Better to call then what they really are: morally depraved, Godless reprobates. This type behavior is what caused God to rain down fire from heaven on Sodom and Gomorrah.
 
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Muck;2167964; said:
Regarding the showering issue.

I'd be willing to bet just about all of us took HS Gym (what with it being a requirement and all). Does anyone ever recall any adult school staff members hopping into the showers at the same time as students?

More importantly I am sure there is a large percentage of individuals on this board who participated in HS athletics and a smaller (but significant) number that played at the college level.

Do any of you recall any coaches sharing the showers with athletes?

In my case I specifically recall that not only did my HS wrestling coaches wait until after the wrestlers were finished and leaving the locker room before they would take a shower but that they would keep the blinds on the coaches room/office closed while we were changing/showering.

In HS football the locker room/shower was separate from the meeting, training & coaches room. The coaches did not regularly come into the locker area at all after practice, let alone the showers.

At the college level the coaches had a separate shower stall attached to their office/break area, not once did they ever come into the players showers.

When I coached wrestling at the HS level neither I nor any other coach ever showered with the wrestlers.

This was in the late 80's early 90's and even at that point at time I definitely reremeber coaches showering with HS & college aged athletes was considered inappropriate...let alone random young children who were not affiliated with the team.

Not only did coaches not shower with players they intentionally distanced themselves from the area when players were in a state of undress specifically to avoid even the appearance of impropriety.
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Never, not ONE time did I ever see anyone other than team mates in the showers. There were never any coaches on that side of the locker room complex so far as I am aware. I was 4 year letterman in Baseball, Football and Wrestling as well as a year of Track and Field.
 
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NFBuck;2167987; said:
Here's the thing: the lines are beginning to blur for me. I can no longer tell if these people are disgusting monsters that only care about Sandusky getting off (no pun intended) to clear Dear Leader's name...or, is central Pennsylvania seriously so [censored]ing inbred and backwards that they honestly don't see a problem with any of this. I'm not entirely sure which makes me hate them more. At this point, I'd like to see the entire region napalmed.
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All of the highlighted are true and/or the way I feel about the situation and I had to live amongst them. With very few exceptions, some of whom are transplants to the area, it's a vast land of human waste.

If you're against that idea, maybe at least administer doses of radiation sufficient enough to prevent reproduction.
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The inbreeding will eventually take care of that. I say we build a wall around the state and nuke it multiple times.

Subhuman, inbred, mutant, pigs.
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Agreed.
 
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Couple of thoughts:

1. I can only assume Amendola had final say in what interview questions made it to air. So in some way he thought that the answer where JS took two minutes and about 100 syllables too much to say he wasn't attracted to young boys was a positive for the defense? The only other option is that NBC had final say and they were just averse to making money by leaving the most incriminating answer on the editing room floor.

2. I don't want to put coach Anderson on trial here, but in no universe would I ever find it normal for my father to take one of my daughters to the Y and then shower with them afterwards in the mens locker room.
 
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They probably already investigated and shot down any possibility of this, but I keep thinking some of these people defending Sandusky in court and some of his other associates were part of a bigger thing with Second Mile.

Somewhat of a dealing service for little children (and child predators) that happened over decades.

But they've probably already investigated.
 
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AKAK;2167986; said:
Maybe in Anderson's mind they are.
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It's certainly a possibility but I don't believe it. The sudden explosion of Penn St. defenders stating "men & boys are in the shower together at the same time at the YMCA" isn't a coincidence.

Someone intentionally primed the pump with that line of reasoning.

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Coaches, no. Principal, yes. In my sophomore year at high school, the principal made a habit of coming into the locker room to "congratulate the team". When you consider that my high school team had the distinction of not winning a game in the City League for nearly two years, it gets tough to determine what he was congratulating. Sometimes he positioned himself within sight of the showers. Other times, he seemed to be trying very hard to avoid any hint of seeing the players when they were undressed.

Was he just an old man that was a nice guy trying to motivate a team that was quite pathetic or a pervert? I thought he was the former and I don't think that he ever got within a yard of anyone without clothes on and certainly he never showered with the team. Other kids thought that he was pretty creepy and made lots of jokes about it.

When our fathers caught wind of the jokes, they had a quick chat with one of the coaches. The principal never entered the locker room again.
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Thanks for that story. I find the fact that parents found out and immediately put a stop to it very telling.

Forgot to mention before I played sports at two different high schools (both in Ohio) and two different Universities (both in California). I coached in both Cali & Ohio. So my anecdotal experiences covers six different schools in two different states.
 
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Hers some BWI garbage I wonder what point this dude is even trying to make. Its a thread about n article from after the alomo bowl when Sandusky was carried off the field.

http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=155815356&mid=155815356&sid=890&style=2

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IgnoreRe: You didn't need to source an article from 1999...ReplyYep, I've repeated myself 100 times. You need to look at these events as if it were 1995-1999, not 2012. Some very self righteous, "i would have reported him to police" people just can't get that through their heads.
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ummmm most of these accusations didn't happend between '95-'99 and it is 2012. So we should think like its 1997 for a child molestion that occured in 2004 wtf?
 
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As close as I can come to coach showering...

Our cross-country coach who was older then dirt.... he was teaching when my dad was in Jr high in the early 60's. He would change in our locker room just outside of the coaches office. The coaches office was tiny to be fair and the football coaches owned it. As far as I can remember he only changed into his running gear though after school and never showered after practice... he would do that at home I'd assume. This would have been in the late 80's and we now have a new highschool with much better locker rooms so this wouldn't happen now.

I know this has made me think though... and its a conversation that will be had with my son before he reaches the age where he might be put into a situation where an adult figure would possibly be put in a position to take advantage of my son.
 
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Muck;2168077; said:
It's certainly a possibility but I don't believe it. The sudden explosion of Penn St. defenders stating "men & boys are in the shower together at the same time at the YMCA" isn't a coincidence.

Someone intentionally primed the pump with that line of reasoning.
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well, this is one of those "the more I think about it" responses....

Doesn't matter much, they weren't at the YMCA.

Well, I guess, they weren't.

And I think here's where I need maybe a little bit of a primer/recap/explanation (not from you Muck, just in general)

Why in God's name were all these kids around in the first place?

I mean, charity, underprivliged.... ok, but, was Sandusky doing all this stuff with them, were other coaches... like seriously, why were they there? And what benefit was it for them to be there?

Are there a bunch of 13 year olds just randomly hanging out at WHAC all the time?

To me, that's the weird thing.. that somehow they got to a place where a YMCA type of atmosphere seems normal. Indeed of course unless, and obviously to some degree this comparison is intentional... but, really if that's where things were, its really fucked up.

I mean, yeah I can see where kids would be thrilled to meet Eddie George or Troy Smith or Beanie Wells.... but, at what point do you say, "Hey there's Eddie, wasn't that cool, Billy, you ever see a grown man naked?"

So sure, on one hand you could make up this "well, happens at the YMCA all the time" to make it sound "more normal" - but, this is a fucking football program... why the fuck would an atmosphere like that be the norm?

So, yeah, if the want to "prime the pump with that line of reasoning" it seems to make it more weird to me.
 
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AKAK;2168093; said:
well, this is one of those "the more I think about it" responses....

Doesn't matter much, they weren't at the YMCA.

Well, I guess, they weren't.

And I think here's where I need maybe a little bit of a primer/recap/explanation (not from you Muck, just in general)

Why in God's name were all these kids around in the first place?
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I agree 100%. I just want to deconstruct the argument down into all the component pieces and eliminate them one by one.

But yes absolutely ... YMCA public showers =/= closed university athletic team showers

I was eliminating the next line of defense "it's normal for coaches to shower with players" before we even get there.


So, yeah, if the want to "prime the pump with that line of reasoning" it seems to make it more weird to me.
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What I was insinuating is that it is very plausible that someone close to the defense set that line loose into the world with the hope that enough 'believers' would pick up on it that it would make it's way into the public conscience.

Somebody on the Penn St board didn't just wake up one day & randomly come up with the idea, with Joyce Porter making the same statement within a day & then a few days later Dick Anderson parroting it in court without there being someone intentionally attempting to spread it.

Yes it's a bullshit argument but it's not like Amendola & Co have much to work with here.
 
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