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Disgraced Former Penn State DC Jerry Sandusky (convicted child molester)

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Perhaps someone with more legal knowledge than I can answer these for me...

1. Could the prosecution call Dottie Sandusky to inquire about what she knew? Everyone is criticizing the coaching staff and the administration about them not acting upon what they knew, but I haven't heard much about his wife and what she knew/helped hide or why she didn't do more to stop the abuse. Surely she knew that Jerry had some "tendencies" and was probably acting them out......

2. If the supposedly hidden email trail that documents what the administration actually knew - and when they knew it - comes out, could the prosecution offer Curley, Spanier, etc. immunity for their testimony against Sandusky? If so, you'd have to think they would squeal like pigs to save their own hides......
 
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tsteele316;2166023; said:
it's almost like a plot line from a law and order episode. "my client didn't do it, but if he did, it's because he's got psychological problems". the only thing this trial needs is for sam waterson to go apeshit on somebody.
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I would have preferred this to be more like an episode of SVU, where Ice T beats Sandusky to a bloody pulp with the butt his sidearm
 
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Marshcreek has been one of the few voices of reason over there and they have turned on him. I feel bad for him. I feel bad for those who have some perspective on this Penn State Apopocalypse. In the history of sports in this country there has never been it's sad, sick equal.
This is new territory. But there are lessens for everyone here.
Step up when you see evil. At least you will be able to live with yourself after.
 
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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=157&f=1395&t=9070784

Has anyone thought that this "secret" file is a totally legit file that the university would use to log complaints that they'd then have to report to the Clery Act folks?
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LOL. Secret files are the opposite of what's required by the Clery Act.

Also, there are no "Clery Act folks". The Clery Act requires the university to make information about crime on its campus available to the campus community and the general public. That's YOU, dumbasses!

Keep digging though. :roll2:

Taken by most internet comments, 95% of people expect to react to these situations like Navy Seals. Last time I checked, not everyone is capable of that. It takes training and a certain caliber of person to react with unflinching resolve to stop a situation like that. This was a completely screwed up situation and what happened is what happened. Everyone should learn from it. I don't judge MM because I have absolutely no grounds to do so. It's not my place as a person.
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It does not take a Navy SEAL to pick up a telephone and call 911.

Also, it doesn't matter if you're big enough or tough enough in that situation. If you're not willing to take an embarrassing ass whoopin' from a naked old creep to stop a rape, then you are a subhuman piece of shit. Simple as that.
 
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AJHawkfan;2166056; said:
Perhaps someone with more legal knowledge than I can answer these for me...

1. Could the prosecution call Dottie Sandusky to inquire about what she knew? Everyone is criticizing the coaching staff and the administration about them not acting upon what they knew, but I haven't heard much about his wife and what she knew/helped hide or why she didn't do more to stop the abuse. Surely she knew that Jerry had some "tendencies" and was probably acting them out......

2. If the supposedly hidden email trail that documents what the administration actually knew - and when they knew it - comes out, could the prosecution offer Curley, Spanier, etc. immunity for their testimony against Sandusky? If so, you'd have to think they would squeal like pigs to save their own hides......
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1. It is doubtful that they would try this, due to spousal privilege issues.

2. I don't know why they would offer those clowns immunity. The case against Sandusky is pretty strong as it is.
 
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Taosman;2166067; said:
Marshcreek has been one of the few voices of reason over there and they have turned on him. I feel bad for him. I feel bad for those who have some perspective on this Penn State Apopocalypse. In the history of sports in this country there has never been it's sad, sick equal.
This is new territory. But there are lessens for everyone here.
Step up when you see evil. At least you will be able to live with yourself after.
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While Penn State is a rather extreme example both in the whole JoePed cult thing and the severity of the issue at hand, I do believe that every single major college football fan base has an element (larger in some; smaller in others) who don't care about anything other than the primacy of the football program and would, without a second's thought, throw the entire university off a cliff to protect that football team.
 
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jlb1705 said:
Not that they're actually "defending" Sandusky or anything... :roll2:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=157&f=1395&t=9066058&p=6


Young man, there's no need to feel down
I said young man, pick yourself off the ground
I said young man, 'cause your in a new town
There's no need to be unhappy
Young man, there's a place you can go
I said young man, when you're short on your dough
You can stay there and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time
It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A
It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A
They have everything for young men to enjoy
You can hang out with all the boys
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At least a couple PSU posters stepped in on the next page and spoke unequivocally about how much of a monster Sandusky is and how bad everybody else is shaking their heads in disbelief at Penn State because of the stupid, evil things their fans are saying to try to rationalize this.
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I'm trying not to just spam this thread with posts from their messed up board....but FINALLY somebody who looks like he carries weight on that board steps up to the plate. JFC it took way too long to see a post like this:
Just stop with the rationalizations. There is no reason that a grown man should be showering with a young boy, at night, by himself, in such close proximity. None.

Sandusky is a predator, plain and simple. He used his position to build relationships and then deliberately placed himself in situations where he would be most free to prey. He should have been destroyed long ago, in the same fashion you put down a rabid animal.

Also, I don't care to hear about "innocent until proven guilty". There is no way this man is not guilty. Again, no way. By all means, let the justice system do it's work, but we all know that this man is guilty. Some of you are really grasping at straws here, and it's frankly disgusting.

It's just too bad for his victims that he didn't decide to "do away" with himself when he realized he was going to act on his unnatural urges.
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I'm sure as I continue reading, he'll be attacked as well.




Oh, and I know the guy who posted the original thing you quoted from another board.
Really, feet? Really?
 
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AJHawkfan;2166056; said:
Perhaps someone with more legal knowledge than I can answer these for me...

1. Could the prosecution call Dottie Sandusky to inquire about what she knew? Everyone is criticizing the coaching staff and the administration about them not acting upon what they knew, but I haven't heard much about his wife and what she knew/helped hide or why she didn't do more to stop the abuse. Surely she knew that Jerry had some "tendencies" and was probably acting them out......

2. If the supposedly hidden email trail that documents what the administration actually knew - and when they knew it - comes out, could the prosecution offer Curley, Spanier, etc. immunity for their testimony against Sandusky? If so, you'd have to think they would squeal like pigs to save their own hides......
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As stated already, spousal privilege basically means she doesn't have to say anything.
 
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Jerry Sandusky trial: John McQueary says he doesn't remember testifying at hearing for former Penn State officials

Cross-examination of John McQueary, the father of assistant coach Mike McQueary, was cut short at the sexual assault trial for Jerry Sandusky this morning when he testified that he did not remember ever taking the stand at a preliminary hearing for two Penn State officials charged with perjury and failure to report.


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View full sizeFormer Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary's father, John McQueary, is escorted out of the back of the Centre County courthouse after testifying during the second day of the Jerry Sandusky trial on child molestation charges. McQueary was transported in a van driven by attorney general office personnel. Sandusky has been charged with 52 counts of child sex abuse allegedly involving 10 boys over 15 years. JOE HERMITT, The Patriot-News
Attorney Karl Rominger seemed stunned, showed McQueary a transcript that proves he was there and did testify, but John McQueary stood firm in not remembering.

Prosecutors confirmed he was there, but Judge John M. Cleland asked Rominger to move on since McQueary had already answered the question.

John McQueary was a main witness at that hearing. He was questioned thoroughly and the hearing got national media attention.

His testimony this morning was much shorter.

McQueary took the stand as the first witness on the third day of Sandusky's child sexual abuse trial and said that former Penn State vice president Gary Schultz told him that he had "heard noise about (allegations) before" 2001, when Mike McQueary reported witnessing Sandusky and a young boy in a sexual position in a locker room shower.

The elder McQueary's story was intended as corroboration of what his son said Tuesday in court. Mike McQueary said he walked into the coach's locker room late at night, witnessed Sandusky behind a boy in the showers, first through a mirror and then around a corner.

McQueary called his father, who told him to report what he'd seen to coach Joe Paterno. Paterno directed McQueary to Schultz and athletic director Tim Curley.

John McQueary's testimony is important because he met with Schultz several weeks later and says he reiterated to the administrator that what Mike had seen was sexual.

On cross-examination, Rominger hinted that John McQueary himself did not call police. He asked him if he was aware of "mandatory reporting" -- a state law that requires people in certain jobs to report suspected child abuse.

John McQueary answered that he was not sure if he was a mandatory reporter in his job as a CEO of a surgical facility.

"What would your son have had to tell you that night for you to call 911," Rominger asked.

"Crying, screaming, someone injured, I don't know," John McQueary testified. "That sounds like a 'what if.' Whatever had taken place was over by the time he saw me. It's not like I walked in on it."

John and Mike McQueary have a close relationship, according to those who know the family well.

They share the same shocking and unforgettable red hair. The same drive. The same confidence. The same instinctual love of a ballgame. And this week, they share the tough challenge of taking the stand in this controversial case.

Father and son have had their credibility attacked because what they allege led to charges against two top Penn State officials and became one of the most-debated accusations of child sex abuse against Sandusky.

The allegations against Sandusky shattered the morale of Happy Valley, but his case is the one that most directly involves the university, and many Nittany Lions faithful blame him for the ouster of former university president Graham Spanier and beloved head football coach Joe Paterno.
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