Disgraced Former Penn State DC Jerry Sandusky (convicted child molester)

[PlanetFrnd]

Disgusting. What they appear to have done is the opposite of "humane".

Probably understating things.

 

[Mac]

Is it possible after all of this, PSU could no longer be a part of the Big 10, an institution, etc?

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I guess we can flush that cancer cure down the crapper now.

 

[3074326]

Is it possible after all of this, PSU could no longer be a part of the Big 10, an institution, etc?

I don't know.. I'm really curious what happens to the school. I can't imagine the Big 10 wanting to be associated with this..

There is some true evil over in Happy Valley.

 

[BB73]

I'm having a visceral reaction to the testimony and the news about Spanier's involvement in a coverup.

My gut feeling is that Spanier should have his net worth completely eradicated in civil suits, and that Penn State should be forced to shut down their football program for 10 years. I don't know what entity on what grounds would be able to issue such a decree on the PSU football program, other than basing it on the human decency that clearly didn't exist there between 1998 and 2011.

 

[Bucklion]

Holy Mother of God, I've seen some Baghdad Bob-like spin jobs before in my life, but this one might just take the complete cake...

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...dusky-trial-penn-state-graham-spanier-coverup

from the article:

Spanier and Schultz said it would be ?humane? to Sandusky to not report the incident to authorities or social services. The incident was never reported.


In a statement, the law office, Roberto & Farrell, representing Curley and Schultz stated, ?The information confirms that ? Tim Curley and Gary Schultz conscientiously considered Mike McQueary?s reports of observing inappropriate conduct, reported it to the University President Graham Spanier, and deliberated about how to responsibly deal with the conduct ??

Disgusting. What they appear to have done is the opposite of "humane".

This is even more than disgusting. I am still trying to digest that statement without heaving. It's the equivalent of Goebels and Hess at Nuremberg saying "The information confirms that we conscientiously considered the Jewish issue, reported it to Hitler, and then deliberated about how to responsibly deal with it" as a fucking defense for the Holocaust.

I mean Jesus Henrietta, this wasn't a man of impeccable character who had a single person of questionable intent say something about him that was completely unprovable. I think everyone would agree that extreme caution would be warranted in such a case. This was a creepy old fuck with a long history of questionable behavior that was widely known that was then OBSERVED doing something heinous to a CHILD by a 3rd party and REPORTED DIRECTLY. What in the fuck was wrong with these people? How did they ever attain positions of power of any kind? And I don't just mean at Penn State, these "men" all had careers rising through the ranks before they got there. How does one now try to rationalize decisions that border on demonic by saying "well this just proves we though about it"? I mean WHAT...THE...FUCK...

 

[Bucklion]

I'm having a visceral reaction to the testimony and the news about Spanier's involvement in a coverup.

My gut feeling is that Spanier should have his net worth completely eradicated in civil suits, and that Penn State should be forced to shut down their football program for 10 years. I don't know what entity on what grounds would be able to issue such a decree on the PSU football program, other than basing it on the human decency that clearly didn't exist there between 1998 and 2011.

I would think the NCAA would have to do that, unless there was some back-door way the state could try and implement it if they control the land the football stadium sits on or something similar.

 

[jebussmurf]

This is even more than disgusting. I am still trying to digest that statement without heaving. It's the equivalent of Goebels and Hess at Nuremberg saying "The information confirms that we conscientiously considered the Jewish issue, reported it to Hitler, and then deliberated about how to responsibly deal with it" as a [censored]ing defense for the Holocaust.

I mean Jesus Henrietta, this wasn't a man of impeccable character who had a single person of questionable intent say something about him that was completely unprovable. I think everyone would agree that extreme caution would be warranted in such a case. This was a creepy old [censored] with a long history of questionable behavior that was widely known that was then OBSERVED doing something heinous to a CHILD by a 3rd party and REPORTED DIRECTLY. What in the [censored] was wrong with these people? How did they ever attain positions of power of any kind? And I don't just mean at Penn State, these "men" all had careers rising through the ranks before they got there. How does one now try to rationalize decisions that border on demonic by saying "well this just proves we though about it"? I mean WHAT...THE...[censored]...

I would just calm down regarding those statements. We should separate the people who made those statements from their job as a lawyer. As lawyers, we are (well, I'm not yet; still studying for the bar) obligated to defend our clients zealously. We get sued if we don't. We also don't necessarily have to, and often times don't, personally support the statements we make while we have our lawyer hats on. They are doing their job as lawyers. I would be shocked and appalled if they actually believed it entirely; I read that as them just doing what they are paid to, and what the law requires, them to do.

Now we can continue with the PSU bashing. =)

 

[colobuck79]

I would think the NCAA would have to do that, unless there was some back-door way the state could try and implement it if they control the land the football stadium sits on or something similar.

ISWYDT


The astounding thing to me is that not one single person in their entire organization chose to do what is right. Not one. Even the Nazis had their detractors, such as Bonhoeffer, who were made to disappear. But in Happy Valley, the most backwards, retarded, disfunctional, evil culture in the world, not a single peep from anybody. How can that be?

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

I would just calm down regarding those statements. We should separate the people who made those statements from their job as a lawyer. As lawyers, we are (well, I'm not yet; still studying for the bar) obligated to defend our clients zealously. We get sued if we don't. We also don't necessarily have to, and often times don't, personally support the statements we make while we have our lawyer hats on. They are doing their job as lawyers. I would be shocked and appalled if they actually believed it entirely; I read that as them just doing what they are paid to, and what the law requires, them to do.

Now we can continue with the PSU bashing. =)

Fucking lawyers. Why do you love child rapists?

 

[shiznit7]

I'm having a visceral reaction to the testimony and the news about Spanier's involvement in a coverup.

My gut feeling is that Spanier should have his net worth completely eradicated in civil suits, and that Penn State should be forced to shut down their football program for 10 years. I don't know what entity on what grounds would be able to issue such a decree on the PSU football program, other than basing it on the human decency that clearly didn't exist there between 1998 and 2011.

It's bigger than just a football thing, though. If Spanier and Co. knew about these, ummm, transgressions, then it's the whole school that needs to be shut down. That can happen, but my guess is that the feds would rather take control of the school instead shutting it down. Short of that, I hope and pray that the B1G kicks them the fuck out of the conference.

 

[Mac]

I would just calm down regarding those statements. We should separate the people who made those statements from their job as a lawyer. As lawyers, we are (well, I'm not yet; still studying for the bar) obligated to defend our clients zealously. We get sued if we don't. We also don't necessarily have to, and often times don't, personally support the statements we make while we have our lawyer hats on. They are doing their job as lawyers. I would be shocked and appalled if they actually believed it entirely; I read that as them just doing what they are paid to, and what the law requires, them to do.

Now we can continue with the PSU bashing. =)

Yeah but you also can select who and what you want to represent. IMO, if you're representing someone who did this, you're supporting that person. Am I right, maybe not, but that's how I see it.

 

[Mac]

It's bigger than just a football thing, though. If Spanier and Co. knew about these, ummm, transgressions, then it's the whole school that needs to be shut down. That can happen, but my guess is that the feds would rather take control of the school instead shutting it down. Short of that, I hope and pray that the B1G kicks them the fuck out of the conference.

Yeah, how would that look in the face of the NCAA, media, society if the B1G kept PSU in the conference. Sorry, but it's time to cut ties, and get ND in here instead so we can destroy them every year :)

 

[jebussmurf]

[censored]ing lawyers. Why do you love child rapists? :[censored]ed:

Because the founding fathers believed that all people should have the right to counsel to defend themselves against claims and put that into the Bill of Rights, regardless of the mountain of evidence against them? When I have time, I'll reread the constitution, but I don't think it says that you have a right to counsel unless you're a child rapist.

Way to miss the point of my post btw. Spanier and all those involved will go to jail. Their money will all disappear under the weight of numerous civil actions. The Constitution just allows them to have a lawyer by their side as this happens.

Yes, you can definitely choose who you represent. I personally wouldn't be able to represent these guys. These guys can, and I can understand that too. I'm just saying don't make too big of a deal out of their statements; to me, it doesn't have any relation to their true, personal feelings on the matter.

 

[Taosman]

One PSU fan even compared Urban's letters to recruits with Sandusky's love letters. WTF is wrong with those people? Surely they understand what "context" is? They disgust me. The whole lot of them.