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Diet-Fitness-General Wellness Your Thoughts?

muffler dragon;1985549; said:
My Naturopath is the first person to ever talk to me about a VAP test. Three years ago, an orthopedic doctor I went to for a couple visits wanted to put me on statins because I was at 205 TC. That was just one of the reasons why I left that cat. My mom's doctor in Marietta had never heard of a VAP test till I told her should request one (based on my Naturopath's urging). It really is sad and disturbing that so much medicine is based on faulty pretenses and incorrect diagnoses.
Which is why, above all else, I encourage people to read more. Don't believe what I write or do what I say (or do), but at least read the sources and draw your own conclusions.

Blindly trusting your doctor because they went to med school is about as stupid as trusting a lawyer because they went to law school.
 
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I had a horrific experience at my workout on Monday at the Y. I was doing the elliptical going at my normal rate when I began to feel off and kind of dizzy. I got off the machine and went to get the spray and cleaner for it. As I was coming back to the machine I had to go down on my knees and put my head down as everything was beginning to spin. I waited a bit and tried to get up and get my things to leave. As I walked towards the door, I was weaving like a drunken sailor and everything was spinning. I went down again and began to get sick. I couldn't stand up or do anything so they brought in an ambulance to take me to the hospital. I was sure it wasn't a heart attack as I had no chest pains and could breathe okay. After a number of tests including a CAT scan and an MRI and MRA they determined it was Vertigo but not of any cause.

I have had Vertigo a number of years ago, but never in any way shape or form had it that bad or come on that quickly. I am not sure if the workout induced the episode or what at this time. It is scary to think that these things can occur at a moments notice and that they have no real determinable cause. I am relatively scared to go back and workout at this point in time, at least for awhile.

The hospital is not a great place to spend your birthday, but the staff their and at the Y were phenomenal in helping me.
 
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buckeyebri;1990647; said:
I had a horrific experience at my workout on Monday at the Y. I was doing the elliptical going at my normal rate when I began to feel off and kind of dizzy. I got off the machine and went to get the spray and cleaner for it. As I was coming back to the machine I had to go down on my knees and put my head down as everything was beginning to spin. I waited a bit and tried to get up and get my things to leave. As I walked towards the door, I was weaving like a drunken sailor and everything was spinning. I went down again and began to get sick. I couldn't stand up or do anything so they brought in an ambulance to take me to the hospital. I was sure it wasn't a heart attack as I had no chest pains and could breathe okay. After a number of tests including a CAT scan and an MRI and MRA they determined it was Vertigo but not of any cause.

I have had Vertigo a number of years ago, but never in any way shape or form had it that bad or come on that quickly. I am not sure if the workout induced the episode or what at this time. It is scary to think that these things can occur at a moments notice and that they have no real determinable cause. I am relatively scared to go back and workout at this point in time, at least for awhile.

The hospital is not a great place to spend your birthday, but the staff their and at the Y were phenomenal in helping me.

Vasovagal syncope.

If it is recurring, regardless whether the episodes are spaced out over years, you may want to talk to a doctor about it and have them order up a tilt table test to isolate the trigger(s). If you suspect it is workout or motion induced, the easiest suggestion is to make certain you are very well hydrated before you begin. The standard order from a doctor would be to guzzle down nearly 64 oz of water in the morning before you even head out the door. A blood test could determine if it is related to a sodium imbalance (typically too-low) or anemia.

It's obviously something to take precautions with, because it could be fatal if it hits you while you're behind the wheel driving a car.
 
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buckeyebri;1990647; said:
I had a horrific experience at my workout on Monday at the Y. I was doing the elliptical going at my normal rate when I began to feel off and kind of dizzy. I got off the machine and went to get the spray and cleaner for it. As I was coming back to the machine I had to go down on my knees and put my head down as everything was beginning to spin. I waited a bit and tried to get up and get my things to leave. As I walked towards the door, I was weaving like a drunken sailor and everything was spinning. I went down again and began to get sick. I couldn't stand up or do anything so they brought in an ambulance to take me to the hospital. I was sure it wasn't a heart attack as I had no chest pains and could breathe okay. After a number of tests including a CAT scan and an MRI and MRA they determined it was Vertigo but not of any cause.

I have had Vertigo a number of years ago, but never in any way shape or form had it that bad or come on that quickly. I am not sure if the workout induced the episode or what at this time. It is scary to think that these things can occur at a moments notice and that they have no real determinable cause. I am relatively scared to go back and workout at this point in time, at least for awhile.

The hospital is not a great place to spend your birthday, but the staff their and at the Y were phenomenal in helping me.

Shit. I think I spiked the wrong drink. :smash:
 
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Dryden;1990709; said:
Vasovagal syncope.

If it is recurring, regardless whether the episodes are spaced out over years, you may want to talk to a doctor about it and have them order up a tilt table test to isolate the trigger(s). If you suspect it is workout or motion induced, the easiest suggestion is to make certain you are very well hydrated before you begin. The standard order from a doctor would be to guzzle down nearly 64 oz of water in the morning before you even head out the door. A blood test could determine if it is related to a sodium imbalance (typically too-low) or anemia.

It's obviously something to take precautions with, because it could be fatal if it hits you while you're behind the wheel driving a car.

Thanks Dryden...the last piece really hits me because I do a bit of driving at times for my job. In fact I just got back from a long trip and have to head out again on Sunday to Milwaukee from Indy.....

I know they are going to do some additional testing in a couple of weeks relative to inner ear.
 
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buckeyebri;1990795; said:
Thanks Dryden...the last piece really hits me because I do a bit of driving at times for my job. In fact I just got back from a long trip and have to head out again on Sunday to Milwaukee from Indy.....

I know they are going to do some additional testing in a couple of weeks relative to inner ear.
Be careful, if you start to feel the least queasy pull over. I hope that gets better, that wouldn't be much fun to live with.
 
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I'm back to doing my workouts again, I had to take a break after the surgery. I did my full leg workout Monday, deadlifts, squats, lunges and some plyos. My legs are still very sore today. What would be better, to keep plugging along and work through the soreness or give my legs an extra day of rest?
 
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DubCoffman62;1990812; said:
I'm back to doing my workouts again, I had to take a break after the surgery. I did my full leg workout Monday, deadlifts, squats, lunges and some plyos. My legs are still very sore today. What would be better, to keep plugging along and work through the soreness or give my legs an extra day of rest?

Good to see you are back at...any change in routine can suddenly push us away from our workouts...I am intending to not let this happen...
 
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buckeyebri;1990877; said:
Good to see you are back at...any change in routine can suddenly push us away from our workouts...I am intending to not let this happen...
I've been slowly working my way back for about a week now. It's amazing how something like a simple jaw surgery can set you back so far. I'm almost back to full strength.
 
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DubCoffman62;1990812; said:
I'm back to doing my workouts again, I had to take a break after the surgery. I did my full leg workout Monday, deadlifts, squats, lunges and some plyos. My legs are still very sore today. What would be better, to keep plugging along and work through the soreness or give my legs an extra day of rest?

No reason to train muscles that are already sore imo. The only times I have done this is strictly for strength, and training your central nervous system is a lot different then training for muscular gains. Even then it wasn't a serious deep soreness. That's an injury waiting to happen.
 
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powerlifter;1990890; said:
No reason to train muscles that are already sore imo. The only times I have done this is strictly for strength, and training your central nervous system is a lot different then training for muscular gains. Even then it wasn't a serious deep soreness. That's an injury waiting to happen.
Thanks. Another question, whenever I do the deadlift, squat, lunge routine by the third set my heart is really pumping and I get dizzy. It takes me about a half an hour afterward to kind of clam down. Is it all of the up and down that causes my heart to work harder? It doesn't really seem that strenuous.
 
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DubCoffman62;1990920; said:
Thanks. Another question, whenever I do the deadlift, squat, lunge routine by the third set my heart is really pumping and I get dizzy. It takes me about a half an hour afterward to kind of clam down. Is it all of the up and down that causes my heart to work harder? It doesn't really seem that strenuous.

Unless you have a medical condition,that's pretty much what it's all about when you are training hard. You'll notice it more if you've missed sessions or had one of those "once in awhile" workouts where everything just clicks,and everything is super intense. Squats and deads put a ton of pressure on your face,and the blood flow can make you light headed. You're also getting a nice rush of adrenaline. The endorphins are like coke..Normally after training lower body day i'm useless for a couple hours and ponder a lot of dumb shit that doesn't matter.
 
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