Decanonized Mythologized Disgraced Ped State Monster Coach Joe Paterno (Zombie Icon)

[LightningRod]

Why did McQueary do what he did? It's not so implausible that it didn't happen in the not too distant past.

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Never mind that the negligence dated back to 1971. One victim, according to a complaint filed by his lawyer two decades later, told Red Sox home clubhouse manager Vince Orlando that Fitzpatrick had abused him for the previous three seasons. Orlando fired the boy. Two sources, who asked not to be identified, said a Red Sox player caught Fitzpatrick sodomizing a boy in the shower, much like then-Penn State graduate assistant Mike McQueary did Sandusky. The player reported the incident to the team but not police. Fitzpatrick kept his job anyway.

 

[zincfinger]

What's implausible to me is that he chose to go to his boss rather than the police. Yet that's what he did. Given that, nothing else this despicable fuckwit did seems odd by comparison.

I think there's a difference between those two things. The decision to walk out of the locker room and tell Paterno before anyone else - the next day no less - was certainly a foolish, and callous decision. But I think one can at least perceive a reason for it. In order to protect the program - in order to protect yourself - you want to get the chief's OK before you bring cops in to sniff around the edges of "his" program. Callous, yes, but there is a reason to it, of sorts. I don't think there would be any reason why one would completely gloss over what he actually saw, when he describes it to the boss. There is no self-interest in that, that I can think of.

To put it simply, while it was obviously woefully wrong, I can see how he might have been afraid to take matters into his own hands, without at least running it by Paterno first. I can't see how he would have been afraid, or think of any other motivation that would dissuade him, to accurately describe to Paterno what he saw.

 

[BB73]

McQueary was a GA at the time, even though he was 28 years old. Since then, he spent 2003 as an 'administrative assistant, and he's been an assistant coach for the last 8 years.

It's possible that he thought that speaking out back in 2002 would jeopardize his coaching career path at PSU, and he decided that on his own. In that case, he's morally bankrupt, and he's certainly guilty of allowing Sandusky to commit further crimes after 2002.

It's also a possibility that somebody told McQueary that he could have and keep the assistant coaching job if he remained silent. If that was the case, the level of the cover-up goes to a greater magnitude.

 

[Basebuck]

There may be more to the McQueary story. I originally thought he was pathetic for not doing the right thing but I've since read some additional variables.

For one, The McQueary's and Sandusky's were apparently friends. Specifically MM and John Sandusky (works for the Browns, Jerry's kid) were very close friends who played football together from middle school through their SR years at PSU.

I'm not saying he wasn't wrong, just saying that this is a very weird story and it's not beyond possible to question the motives of any kid that walked into that house. I'd hate to beat him up too bad only to find out he has his own demons

 

[zincfinger]

McQueary was a GA at the time, even though he was 28 years old. Since then, he spent 2003 as an 'administrative assistant, and he's been an assistant coach for the last 8 years.

It's possible that he thought that speaking out back in 2002 would jeopardize his coaching career path at PSU, and he decided that on his own. In that case, he's morally bankrupt, and he's certainly guilty of allowing Sandusky to commit further crimes after 2002.

It's also a possibility that somebody told McQueary that he could have and keep the assistant coaching job if he remained silent. If that was the case, the level of the cover-up goes to a greater magnitude.

I agree that one can imagine more than one facially plausible scenario to explain why McQueary never contacted the police. The two you mention range from really bad, to Paterno-in-the-back-seat-of-a-police-cruiser-bad. But whatever the explanation why no one ever contacted the police, I have a hard time accepting that it includes McQueary, of his own initiative and for no discernible reason, describing what he saw to Paterno in a ridiculously watered-down version.

 

[localyokel]

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/sports-media-asks-molestation-victims-what-this-me,26609/

I actually loved this article. Relentlessly vicious skewering of all the idiot JoePa apologists and their grossly imbalanced value systems.

Says it all:

At press time, the victims of years and years of psyche-destroying sexual abuse released a joint statement saying they were not concerned about Joe Paterno's legacy.

 

[Buck Nasty]

I agree that one can imagine more than one facially plausible scenario to explain why McQueary never contacted the police. The two you mention range from really bad, to Paterno-in-the-back-seat-of-a-police-cruiser-bad. But whatever the explanation why no one ever contacted the police, I have a hard time accepting that it includes McQueary, of his own initiative and for no discernible reason, describing what he saw to Paterno in a ridiculously watered-down version.

What I can't fathom in terms of McQuery no matter what his relationship with Sandusky or his family, or what he reported is how he could have come face to face with this guy in the facilities over the past 8 years and not questioned what the fuck he was doing there? Based on what he saw and what he reported how could he ever look at that guy again and not question someone up the food chain on why he was still around.

 

[Muck]

penn state's board of trustees fired paterno over the phone, which tells me how disappointed they are in him. paterno is a witness for the prosecution... but has hired a criminal defense attorney. interesting.

Is he possibly getting an early prep for the inevitable civil cases?

FWIW the report was later revised that Paterno had contacted J. Sedgwick Sollers but had not yet retained his services.

 

[Muck]

"A person familiar with his account said McQueary did not spare the details when he met with Paterno. Nor did he when he met with the university?s athletic director and another senior administrator, the man in charge of Penn State?s campus police."

The 'McQueary is a liar' defense has already infected Happy Valley like the plague.

 

[LightningRod]

It appears that pedophilia enabling has also infected Happy Valley like the plague.

 

[matcar]

The 'McQueary is a liar' defense has already infected Happy Valley like the plague.

It would appear that one of 3 things MUST be true:

1) McQueary is lying
2) Paterno is lying
3) Paterno truly doesn't remember exactly what he was told at this point

Isn't that correct or are there other obvious possibilities I'm missing?

As for #3, I don't like the old "I don't remember" excuse, but I suppose anything is possible with this old geezer at this point.

 

[DaBears]

JoePa, Sandusky, etc etc will all be spending a ton of time in a courtroom over the next few years. Say hello to civil suits, emphasis on the plural, and obscene attorney fees.

 

[Bucklion]

It would appear that one of 3 things MUST be true:

1) McQueary is lying
2) Paterno is lying
3) Paterno truly doesn't remember exactly what he was told at this point

Isn't that correct or are there other obvious possibilities I'm missing?

As for #3, I don't like the old "I don't remember" excuse, but I suppose anything is possible with this old geezer at this point.

Option 4 is doubtlessly what Paterno will say if he publicly clarifies what he was told as has been reported he wants to do...which is basically that McQ told him something, but didn't use specific enough language (maybe the words, rape, anal sex, whatever) to throw up the kind of red flag it should have to someone from a generation where people didn't really "talk about that sort of thing" like they do now. I'm not saying any of this is legitimate, but I imagine that is what it will be, to cover both Joe and McQ's asses.

 

[buckeyeintn]

I just watched a portion of the PSU BoT meeting on BTN where the new president was introduced. He has been at PSU 34 years. My first thought was, "He has been there 34 years and had not heard any of the rumors?" In listening to his introduction and then a portion of him addressing the BoT, it appears this is another example of their continued inbreeding. I believe if they truly want to clean up the mess they need to have someone from outside their "family" come in to do the cleaning. This just looks like bringing in someone who is familiar with their CYA philosophy.

I wasn't sure where to post this, so if there is a better place feel free to move it.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Is Paterno charged or is this just precautionary (for perhaps more to come)?

The DA disappearance needs to continued to be investigated and all these parties need to be heavily questioned.

Mounting his inevitable civil defense I would guess. Something that just became that much harder with the board of trustees shit canning him.