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DE Sam Hubbard (All B1G, National Champion, Cincinnati Bengals)

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southcampus said:
I always wished we had Josh Perry at TE rather than LBer. It'll be interesting to see how Sam's time at TE goes. He could be a big time threat or this could just be an experiment during his frosh year.
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If we actually utilize the position, then the move could be big. If we continue to sparsely utilize the position, then not so much. Sam is an elite talent, so we just need him wherever he can make the biggest impact but I suppose with Booker, McMillan, and Berger, we have the luxury of moving him around.
 
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RB07OSU said:
If we actually utilize the position, then the move could be big. If we continue to sparsely utilize the position, then not so much. Sam is an elite talent, so we just need him wherever he can make the biggest impact but I suppose with Booker, McMillan, and Berger, we have the luxury of moving him around.
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Last season Heuerman had 26 receptions for 466 yards and 4 TDs. I think increased use of the TE moving forward will largely depend on the QBs ability to read the defense (and what the defense is trying to do) more so than any lack of usage in the offensive system.
 
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Buckeye86 said:
Last season Heuerman had 26 receptions for 466 yards and 4 TDs. I think increased use of the TE moving forward will largely depend on the QBs ability to read the defense (and what the defense is trying to do) more so than any lack of usage in the offensive system.
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Definitely an improvement but part of the equation is having plays where the TE is the primary or secondary read and not a check-down option. Granted of course I do not call the plays nor possess the playbook, so I don't know the breakdown there. I just think for UFM saying that Heuerman and Vannett being the best TE tandem in the country, we didn't seem to scheme accordingly. Granted they were not used exclusively as 6th tackles like in the JT days, they also are not even close to being utilized like when UFM had Hernandez and Ingram at UF. Every year we hear we are going to heavily involve the TE and it never happens. And how this loops back to Sam is to say that if we aren't envisioning a 40-50 reception per year TE, then I would have to think he would make a bigger impact on defense. But there is still plenty of time to see how he fits in here and I of course trust the coaches...I'm just theorizing since it is late-June and I have no other sports to keep me sane.

(Mods feel free to move to TE discussion)
 
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RB07OSU said:
Definitely an improvement but part of the equation is having plays where the TE is the primary or secondary read and not a check-down option. Granted of course I do not call the plays nor possess the playbook, so I don't know the breakdown there. I just think for UFM saying that Heuerman and Vannett being the best TE tandem in the country, we didn't seem to scheme accordingly. Granted they were not used exclusively as 6th tackles like in the JT days, they also are not even close to being utilized like when UFM had Hernandez and Ingram at UF. Every year we hear we are going to heavily involve the TE and it never happens. And how this loops back to Sam is to say that if we aren't envisioning a 40-50 reception per year TE, then I would have to think he would make a bigger impact on defense. But there is still plenty of time to see how he fits in here and I of course trust the coaches...I'm just theorizing since it is late-June and I have no other sports to keep me sane.

(Mods feel free to move to TE discussion)
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I don't think that, we need our TEs to be primary or secondary options. As long as they're mismatches they can make themselves known in the offense. Like 86 stated, the TE being utilized is more on the QB than it is on the TE. I didn't think that Sam would turn into a TE but our need at TE must be pretty great. And I wonder if this means the staff stops recruiting TEs for 2015 or puts less emphasis on it now. A TE for an offense nowadays can be a QBs best friend if he's able to read the coverage properly. If our WRs are seen as threats by opposing players, then the middle of the field opens up dramatically. Heurman made Clemson and mainly Purdue pay last year when they paid more attention to the outside WRs.
 
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RB07OSU said:
And how this loops back to Sam is to say that if we aren't envisioning a 40-50 reception per year TE, then I would have to think he would make a bigger impact on defense.
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Some food for thought....

In 2013, there were 329 linebackers on NFL rosters. The height range was 5-foot-10 to 6-foot-6, broken down as follows:

5' 10" - 1 player (Brian Rolle)
5' 11" - 16 players
6' 00" - 38 players
6' 01" - 86 players
6' 02" - 84 players
6' 03" - 64 players
6' 04" - 32 players
6' 05" - 7 players
6' 06" - 1 player

The average height for all 329 linebackers was 6-foot, 1.8-inches.

There were 176 tight ends on NFL rosters. The height range was 6-foot-0 to 6-foot-8, broken down as follows:

6' 00" - 1 player
6' 01" - 2 players
6' 02" - 8 players
6' 03" - 31 players
6' 04" - 46 players
6' 05" - 50 players
6' 06" - 29 players
6' 07" - 7 players
6' 08" - 2 players

The average height for all 176 tight ends was 6 foot, 4.5 inches.

For those of you who thought that Sam could play safety, the average height for an NFL safety was 5-foot, 11.9 inches, with the tallest safeties being 6-foot-4 (two players).

So at 6-foot-6, Sam does not fit the profile for success at linebacker (or at safety), but he does fit the profile for success at tight end. This should be a good move for the team, and for Sam individually.
 
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Well, for whatever reason all the good to great TE's are not flocking to the Scarlet & Gray. It appears to me that tOSU utilizes the TE's more than they did, but still not to the levels of Penn St, Notre Dame, M[Mark May}igan. Until there are more receptions, TD's, touches, etc by the TE's, not sure why a kid would want to give up catching the football for blocking down on a DE or LB. I hope that UFM actually uses the TE as a primary receiver, rather than the fourth check-off look during the 2014 season. That would be novel in tOSU football lore and might just be the 'edge' that the Offense needs. If UFM shows that the TE will be a pass-catcher, than the 4 & 5*'s will flock. Go Bucks
 
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